Update time! On the violin front, I've suspended my lessons until January. The holidays are just too busy for me to worry about practicing the violin. I'll probably pick it back up in the new year
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Okay, first off, I don't really care either way if Bella's a Mary Sue or not, so I'm not really gunning for one side or the other. To me it's more about the story and letting onesself get swept up in the story.
Amazingly enough, I wasn't that familiar with the term so I wiki'd it. In my opinion, Bella may not be as flawed as some characters, however she does have one fairly large flaw that does play out in the plots of the books: she's selfish. I'm assuming you've read the books, so you know that she couldn't let go of Jacob. She wanted some claim on him and couldn't let him leave her for his own good. She kept him there because he was her best friend and she needed the comfort he gave her. She also can't let go of Edward. In Eclipse, she kept him with her during the big fight at the end because she couldn't stand to be away from him. She wants to see Charlie after she's a vampire, even though she's not completely sure if she can control herself. But she doesn't want to just up and leave even if that's what might be best for Charlie; she wants to keep that parental contact. There's probably more examples throughout the books. I'm really not that familiar with the concept or which characters are considered examples, so it's hard for me to discuss it.
Oh and don't worry about infecting my posts. You make me think about things. As long as it stays civil and relatively friendly, I don't have a problem with it.
Well yeah, Bella wasn't perfect, and she was an alright character, until the last book.
In Breaking Dawn, she became a vampire without the years of agony and thirst, and it was revealed that her "power" was massively useful and she ended up saving the day with it (learning to control it in, what, a matter of weeks?). Oh, and she became ridiculously beautiful and graceful. (Can you call having a miracle vampire daughter who doesn't want to kill everyone, and having superbly understanding parents MarySue-like qualities? :P)
She's by far the textbook Mary Sue, but in the final book, she came pretty close.
I agree that a lot of things happened conveniently in Breaking Dawn. And in the end she did get everything she wanted. But isn't that just the text book fairy tale ending? The perfect husband, being beautiful finally, getting a loving family, your parents accepting you, and having forever with their spouse?
There's nothing wrong with fairy tale endings in their place, I just think it didn't mesh well with the rest of the series.
New Moon was REALLY gritty, I thought (for teen vampire fiction...), so it was sort of surprising and a bit disappointing that everything was wrapped up so neatly and nicely.
Well, if you think of the series as one continuous story, it makes more sense. New Moon was like the middle, when everything is wrong. And then at the end, all the ends get tied. The same could be said about the Lord Of The Rings movies (I say movies cause I haven't read all the books). The Two Towers is very dark, with most of the characters split up into much smaller groups. Everything is looking very grim. Then in Return Of The King, the ring is destroyed, Aragorn made king, Frodo goes off to whatever land of light the Grey Havens is, and Sam gets his very own family. Nice, happy ending, even when the middle of the story was very very dark and gritty. I wouldn't say that was disappointing.
Amazingly enough, I wasn't that familiar with the term so I wiki'd it. In my opinion, Bella may not be as flawed as some characters, however she does have one fairly large flaw that does play out in the plots of the books: she's selfish. I'm assuming you've read the books, so you know that she couldn't let go of Jacob. She wanted some claim on him and couldn't let him leave her for his own good. She kept him there because he was her best friend and she needed the comfort he gave her. She also can't let go of Edward. In Eclipse, she kept him with her during the big fight at the end because she couldn't stand to be away from him. She wants to see Charlie after she's a vampire, even though she's not completely sure if she can control herself. But she doesn't want to just up and leave even if that's what might be best for Charlie; she wants to keep that parental contact. There's probably more examples throughout the books. I'm really not that familiar with the concept or which characters are considered examples, so it's hard for me to discuss it.
Oh and don't worry about infecting my posts. You make me think about things. As long as it stays civil and relatively friendly, I don't have a problem with it.
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In Breaking Dawn, she became a vampire without the years of agony and thirst, and it was revealed that her "power" was massively useful and she ended up saving the day with it (learning to control it in, what, a matter of weeks?). Oh, and she became ridiculously beautiful and graceful. (Can you call having a miracle vampire daughter who doesn't want to kill everyone, and having superbly understanding parents MarySue-like qualities? :P)
She's by far the textbook Mary Sue, but in the final book, she came pretty close.
(but yeah, she was still totally selfish).
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New Moon was REALLY gritty, I thought (for teen vampire fiction...), so it was sort of surprising and a bit disappointing that everything was wrapped up so neatly and nicely.
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