kungfu sketch--inked

[dutchoven]

I made the horse bigger and slightly shorter, and made his chin less. I'm kind of sad that the inked version looks less lively than the sketch, though. =( I guess that it happens because there are less lines flying about, but if I could figure out a way to keep the sense of movement without spontaneously splattering ink all over the place, then

Comments

[pandorobop]

yeah! looks great ;) I have anything to say but that this picture looks wonderful. No flattering ^^;; Is very good, and has a line mixture between airshell and other artists. LF (airshell) doesn't use too much lines values (if I remember right). Line values: bigger when closer, smaller when farther. You may add this and will pop up the picture a lot, but take in mind that not all artists/magaka or whatever use line values. That means, not adding lines values may be part of your style, so it's ok.
Then, I admire you that you want to watercolor the pic. Is good to take challenges!

[90009]

LF (airshell) doesn't use too much lines values

Wow, thanks for making me (and everyone else) notice it, I never realized it. So I guess my stuff looks kinda flat...wow that's bad. Really bad.

[redplasticglass]

Youre inking style is about 500x more varied than mine is. ;P

I don't think lack of line variation is a bad thing-- it depends on whether it works within your drawing style or not. You _can_ always push it further to see what happens (or if it's a personal goal), but your drawing style doesn't really need it, as far as I can tell. (If you look at it in terms of _style_)

[90009]

I don't think lack of line variation is a bad thing

To me, it's sort of is *_* While it's very nice to have it in illustrations, I think it's not very good at all for comics, especially those full of backgrounds, because yeah, it flattens everything and makes everything looks pretty boring.(and I'm speaking as a comic reader here) You don't know if the characters are close to you or back in a distance, or worse, part of the furniture... I try my best to avoid it, but now I see I'm very bad at it.
So if this pandoro person is right, and I don't use line variations enough, and everyone else notice it but me, then I guess I should really rethink my inking techniques T_T You might think I'm a stupid or something now, but this really bothers me a lot.

Well, time for improving, I guess! :)

[dutchoven]

I didn't notice anything wrong at all!! Well, I wasn't aware of line variation in the sense pandorobop was talking about, but really, you use your blacks and screentones in such a way that I never had a problem seeing depth. That said, improvement = cool!!!

[pandorobop]

wow! I have the power to screw up in every plain silly comment I make, haven't I Airshell? @@;; sorry about it. I'll try to explain myself. Most of the time, Airshell doesn't use one chara on the background and other on the foreground. I try hard to find one example: http://airshell.com/vol1/air-1.php?page=1_a_75... )

[redplasticglass]

You don't know if the characters are close to you or back in a distance, or worse, part of the furniture

[90009]

You know, the problem is that, for example in my case, I tend to use somewhat thin lines. Now, if I use a thin line for the characters in the front of the page, I have to use a thinner line for the bg, and microscopic lines for things far away. But they indeed look all as if they have the same width. I tried to put some remedy by adding details/black to thing close to the viewer and so on, and I thought it worked somehow.
Somebody suggested me to work with a brush, but alas, I can't use it ~_~
I guess I should try to find a workaround for this without enlarging the width of the lines - though it would be an advisable thing to do, I fear I'll end up drawing things a la Akira Toryiama, since my hand is very heavy *_*

he inks _only_ with a single line width.

Oh yup, many artists use to do so. I noticed it mostly in shojo artists, where the use of backgrounds is very sporadic.

[redplasticglass]

Actually.... you know how this may be remedied? ;P It's something I found when I went to art school and they forced me to work on paper the size of..well... me.

Work on bigger paper with thicker pens.

*laugh* dutchoven told me that you work on paper that's pretty close in size to regular typing paper? American comic standard is 11x17 with a drawing area of ...uh... 10x16, I think, so there's a bit more room. being able to work with thicker pens is wonderful on getting more linequality in. Though, this is also dependent on what the printers are capable of capturing.

If your're getting offset printed, then anything goes. However, if you're getting printed through the small-run printers, the methods and machinery used in those cases tend to be a little more restrictive.

[dutchoven]

uwah....line values? O_O I never knew about that. Durr....that means I definitely don't have any, because I used the same pen for all of it! I'll have to remember that for next time...usually when I do comics I end up using thicker pens for the background and thinner pens for the figures.

Thanks for your comment! Now I have more things to work on in my drawing :D (line values, bgs, perspective, emotions, inking, etc etc)

[pandorobop]

well... actually there was a time I love so much Maki Kusumoto's work that inked everything with a Rotring 01... so you can image the result ^^;; but as I told you... is just an style, I never meant it as rule. Your pic is really nice!!