Election

[dumatt]

The results are in: Bush won and Kerry lost. Now would be the appropriate time for many people to move to "insert random country here". If, for some crazy reason, you decide to stay in this country, do your best to support the president, because even if he wasn't your choice, he won the popular and electoral votes and has control of our country. Im

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[ximafatpunkx]

49% of this country didn't voter for him, and now we should just support him? I think you are asking a little much. The apathetic ones may cave, but I doubt the rest will just drop all independent thought and stand behind this administration. You'll never see me support support this president just because he won.

[empathyislost]

51% of this country didn't voter for clinton in '96, but everyone else got over it.

i saw a funny ad from punkvoter that said "1/3 of all tax cuts go to the wealthy. wheres your tax cut?" and i thought about. it appeared to be a trick question, but the answer was quite obvious (for the majority of punxxx readers):

the other 2/3.

[empathyislost]

my point is, well, you really do need to get over it. i would absolutely no problem with kerry in office (well other than hoping there isnt a draft in the next 4 years, until i turn 25), because no matter what, there are checks and balances, and every single person involved in the US government collectively takes citizens in mind when making decisions, and thats what we call checks and balances. thats the only way america can stay the greatest country in the world. if you disagree, well, thats fine i guess. i strongly consider moving to what you think is a greater country, even if just for a few years.

Congress may pass laws........but the President can veto them.

The President can veto laws.......but Congress can override the veto with a 2/3 vote.

The President and Congreess may agree on a law..........but the Supreme Court can declare a law unconsitutional.

The President can appoint Judges and other government officials.......but Senate must approve them.

Supreme Court judges have life terms.......but they can be impeached

[cubaricho]

fun fact: I was reading today that the president has not used his veto power in the whole four years he has been in office.

[empathyislost]

that is a fun fact! interesting.

[dumatt]

The system of checks and ballances at its best...however being that the Republican party has control over each of those governing bodies, I don't think it will work quite as well as its intended.

[danamite]

I have no plans to get over it either and it's a lot easier to say you would have no problem with supporting a President you didn't vote for then actually supporting a President you didn't vote for

[dumatt]

Its asking too much for a US citizen (or anyone living in the US) to support the American president who won the popular and electoral vote? Regardless of the margin of victory, its still a victory.

[cubaricho]

Well it was only 51% of 60% of eligible voters. there were around 200mill eligible voters and (as of right now) only 59,329,883 voted for Bush. So that's about 29.6% of eligible voters who went Bush, and only 20% of all Americans who actually voted Bush (according to the population estimate of 294,680,161 @ http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/popclock).

Not that it really matters, I'm just tired of people saying "america has spoken!" or some derivative there-of because obviously only about 20% of the people in America spoke that way.

Not everyone has ever stood behind one president, Bush or otherwise. It doesn't necessarily need to start now, some people will always have disdain toward a president no matter who it is.

[empathyislost]

eligble is in no way related to the definition of educated.

[empathyislost]

that number from the census included every single person in america, including people being born as i type, people under 18, felons, and illegal aliens.

and if you want to look at it that way, then kerry only got about 24% of the eligible voters. there are two sides to every coin.

america spoke, though it may not have been through a megaphone.

[cubaricho]

That's why I said "20% of all Americans" and meant in no relation to eligible voters. I stated the percentage of eligible voters who voted for Bush prior to that.

[ximafatpunkx]

That's true, but should I just change my views and thoughts because he won? I don't think so...

[dumatt]

Of course not, I never meant to imply that anyone should change their views unless they choose to. But I still think you should do your best to support the president of our country.

[ximafatpunkx]

Ok, I finally see what you are saying. Before I thought you were attacking me, and to be honest I was pissed. But sorry, I will never support him. We can talk about it in person, because this live journal bullshit, is coming close to hurting out friendship. I won't continue to converse about complicated issues on here.

[dumatt]

No, none of this was an attack on anyone. I wanted to keep this as positive as possible, but I had a feeling it wasn't going to happen.