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ladymercury_10 July 28 2013, 05:07:04 UTC
I still haven't seen this movie but reading your commentary is really interesting and I suspect it will make the movie that much more interesting if I ever do get around to seeing it.

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dudski July 28 2013, 05:33:09 UTC
I love SO MUCH that the more I put into this movie [AND I HAVE PUT A LOT INTO IT] the more I get out of it. ALWAYS MORE THINGS!

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coldbam July 28 2013, 05:08:01 UTC
OK WOW I am just VERY STUCK ON THE WHOLE NEWT THING. Like, when I watched my thoughts were mostly just "wow that's kind of a dick thing" in that first scene and then didn't think much of it BC THERE IS SO MUCH ELSE, but HOLY HELL THAT IS REALLY GROSS. Like its one thing as a scientist to be intrigued by these huge alien life forms, but he is like glorifying and worshipping them prancing around places with these reminders of DEATH AND DESTRUCTION for EVERYONE, and especially where he works, just plastered all over his body???!!! Like I would assume he'd have to be completely ignorant of other people's feelings t be able to do that!!

SUPER INTO THE IDEA OF CHUCK LIKING MAKO BUT NOT AS AN EQUAL BC HE'S TERRIBLE AND DOESN'T GET IT. AND JEAGER BRATS FOREVER!!!

FINALLY, THANKS FOR WALKING ME THROUGH THAT RALEIGH STUFF bc I as well am terrible with action sequence. SOMEHOW THIS MOVIE KEEPS GETTING EVEN MORE PERFECT EMOTIONALLY???? I can't even talk about that more tho bc it makes my heart ache

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dudski July 28 2013, 05:36:34 UTC
At the very least, HOW HAS NEWT NOT BEEN PUNCHED IN THE FACE YET? REPEATEDLY? Obviously his personal interest/emotional investment paid off because he saw them in a way nobody else did, and that paved the way for things like his cloning insight and the decision to drift with them, but JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ you'd think he'd learn to tone down the enthusiasm - particularly around Jaeger pilots, WHO HAVE AN INSANE CASUALTY RATE?

I'M SO MUCH IN LOVE WITH CHUCK SEEING HOW AWESOME MAKO IS BUT NOT APPRECIATING IT PROPERLY! It must have kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilled him that she got to go to the Academy a year before him. HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO STAND FOR THAT!

ACTION SEQUENCES, MAN, WHO HAS THE TIME?

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disco_vendetta July 28 2013, 05:54:34 UTC
IT GIVES "WE CAN CLEAR A PATH FOR THE LADY" THIS WHOLE NEW SECONDARY LAYER BENEATH THE OBVIOUSLY SUPERIOR PRIMARY ONE.

UMMMMMMMM, I JUST HAD THE THOUGHT THAT PENTECOST IS LITERALLY IN CHUCK'S BRAIN RN, SEEING EVERYTHING HE'S EVER THOUGHT ABOUT MAKO, "WE CAN CLEAR A PATH FOR MY DAUGHTER, WHOM YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN WORTHY OF FOR A HOT SECOND, YOU USELESS PUNK."

"It's not obedience, it's respect" is something that actually carries as a theme for Raleigh, who goes from risking an entire city for a single boat to stopping in his tracks at the Breach because Pentecost said not to come to

Can we talk about how the visual representation of Raleigh's learned heaviness coming full circle with his natural enthusiasm is Gypsy beating the fuck out of kaiju using a boat as a club???? Here is the city he was told to protect and here is the fucking boat and here is his co-pilot at his side, alive and safe and thriving, how insane do you think that felt? How insane did that feel to Mako, feeling it in his head? BUT RALEIGH BECKET ISN'T THAT ( ... )

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dudski July 28 2013, 06:15:42 UTC
PENTECOST MAY NOT HAVE BROUGHT ANY RANK, MEMORY, OR EMOTIONS INTO THE DRIFT, BUT HE DID BRING A FUCKLOAD OF SIDE-EYE FOR ALL THESE MAKO MEMORIES CHUCK BROUGHT IN.

UGH, RALEIGH BECKET, ALWAYS SAYING THINGS OUT LOUD WHEN THEY'RE SHARING A BRAIN, HOW DUMB, MAKO MUST FIND THAT SO REDUNDANT AND DISTRACTING AND SHE'S PROBABLY NOT AT ALL GRATEFUL FOR IT AS SOMETHING TO GROUND HER IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD AND KEEP HER FROM GETTING SWEPT UP IN THE DRIFT. SHE PROBABLY TOTALLY HATES THE OBVIOUS PLEASURE HE GETS OUT OF SAYING HER NAME, OBVIOUS BOTH BECAUSE SHE CAN HEAR IT IN HIS VOICE BUT ALSO BECAUSE SHE CAN FEEL IT IN HIS MIND. HOW AWFUL. IF ONLY HE'D SHUT UP.

Can we talk about how the visual representation of Raleigh's learned heaviness coming full circle with his natural enthusiasm is Gypsy beating the fuck out of kaiju using a boat as a club????LITERALLY BEATING HIS PRESENT-DAY ENEMIES WITH HIS PAST MISTAKES? NO BIG DEAL. I'M FINE. Also I honestly can't think too hard EVER about what it must be like for them to be linked and have this ( ... )

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dudski July 28 2013, 15:01:56 UTC
IT'S SO GROSS OF HIM! But okay, fandom.WRITE MORE NEWT/HERMAN FICS THAT YOU DO MAKO/RALEIGH ONES. THAT'S A THING. THAT IS LITERALLY A THING, AND A LARGER SHARE OF THE M/R ONES THAN THE N/H ONES ARE PROBABLY PLATONIC. Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy scientists who love Kaiju so much they gush about it to people who lost family members in attacks.

CHUCK/MAKO WENT FROM NOTHING THAT HAD/WOULD EVER OCCUR TO ME TO BEING SOMETHING THAT IS NOW A VITAL PART OF MY EXISTENCE? Unforrrrrrrrrrtunately the one fic that exists for them, while EVERYTHING I WOULD HAVE WANTED IN A LOT OF WAYS, also has them as endgame and Chuck doesn't die and UMMMMMMMMMMMMMM NO THANKS I'M OKAY. I NEED HIM TO BE POISONED BY THE FACT THAT SHE'S BETTER THAN HIM, OR IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME.

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dudski July 29 2013, 02:06:13 UTC
WHO KNOWS WHY FANDOM DOES THE THINGS IT DOES????????????? Why does AO3 says it has 190 M/M fics and only 120 F/M? Why is it that I'm already sure that at least a THIRD of those F/M fics are actually PLATONIC MAKO/RALEIGH and NONE of the M/M fics are platonic? WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP WRITING JAEGER AUS FOR OTHER FANDOMS AND FILING THEM UNDER PACIFIC RIM WHEN THEY FEATURE ZERO PACIFIC RIM CHARACTERS? WHO KNOWS. EVERYONE SUCKS.

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torigates July 28 2013, 18:28:35 UTC
I didn't think about the tattoos because of course there would be super gross people out there who are weirdly into the Kaiju and like want to have sex with them (.........probably), but yeah that's super fucking cold and you know it's even grosser because Newt would literally never think of it in that way, that his love for the Kaiju would be super gross and offensive and insulting to the people who had suffered real losses because of them and not you know, built their whole lives around them. and how much must Pentecost just like want to bash that asshole's head in ALL THE TIME? how much must he hate it that they actually NEED THAT DUDE???? gross!!!!

ALSO I never realised that about the boat either!!! but it makes a lot of sense. also I'm ALL ABOUT Mako thinking Raleigh was going to be a huge punk douchebag and then having him just be the most respectful person ever. I'M ALL ABOUT IT.

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dudski July 29 2013, 01:17:42 UTC
I'M OBSESSED WITH THE IDEA OF MAKO GETTING UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL WITH GIPSY DANGER AND HATING RALEIGH FOR BEING SO CARELESS WITH HER, AND THEN MEETING HIM AND BEING LIKE "WHAT, HOW ARE YOU NOT THE WORST?" AND THEN FINDING OUT HE LOVES GIPSY DANGER AS MUCH AS SHE DOES.

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