everyone sees it ... u know this stuff .. but i need to say it all again

Jul 19, 2004 18:06

They are failing to do what a broader public view might want them to do
..
People do not want violence, people do not want to see little children
dieing in a mosque, and people definitely do not want to see innocent
people like berg getting there heads chopped off. The similarity between all
of these as you might have audibly realized is that at the end of the day,
loss of human life is not appreciated, not by me , you or the Arab world.
You are going to attract eyes, a lot of scorching ones, if you are going to
step into someone else's country and bomb their mosques. I'm definitely not
saying that is done even by a nominal amount of cruel intention, but it still
happened, and that's how its going to go down as. Its violence which is
being preached as the American view. Its a war lost when human lives,
innocent civilian lives get serviced for no reason, not political view.
If you'd like a rough cipher around 20+ Iraqi prisoners have died in US
captivity. Now I could say that this is worse than killing berg , which
, as a person he of course accounts for only one human life. But not true.
Human life cannot be equated in sheer numbers, or even estimates. Its a life
gone forever and that's that. It was REVENGE augmentated through the minds of
people, even if it was a wrong philosophy.
You cannot compare the Hitler situation with this. The times were
different.There are far greater number of critics of American policy today than
there ever were. This is a war of the coalition if so to speak, involving a
handful of countries. Hitler was up against a fight with the might of
the allies which had more than 25 countries and troops from than 60 nations
involved in favour of them. It was of course a world war. This is not.
Most of the Arab world did not appreciate the Iraq war , nor does it
appreciate the occupation of it after the war. Most of the countries back then ,
would give up anything to see Hitler crestfallen.
Treating force with force is never a good option. To bridge my views
across to you, I shall take up an history lesson which I don't think America
learnt too well. Vietnam. More than 2 million Americans took part in the
Vietnam war, one percent of the population. This war forced the Vietnamese to
sign a peace treaty in January 1973 BUT the US forces were no longer available
in 1975 when North Vietnam launched a successful invasion of the South.
Would you say this was a waste of countless soldiers, American ones,who died
in the process ? Think about it.
Afghanistan, Gulf War and Somalia spring up a similar Tale
May be the American Intention in Iraq is right . But not the way its
gone about delivering it. Your saying that killing of people against sad dam
is definitely equally violent ? Well I say it sure is. Its human life
lost. Its a family destroyed.
But now I'd like you to tell me, how are the coalition soldiers or
policies helping people is Iraq right now? People are still dieing. A fleet of
innumerable CIA agents have got a lot of intelligence wrong and wrong
places have been bombed ( 34 times, the last time I read on BBC ) . Tell me
how the situation has changed. Don't you feel that killing a handful of jehadis
is going to spring up more than just a handful more ? Pockets have
resistance have never decreased since sad dam was captured. People still continue
to die, wherever there is war. And it is always going to be that. War is a
curse. Violence is a curse.

Whose right when people under sad dam and the coalition continue to be
murdered ?

History always has a lesson to be learnt from it. Do not repeat your
mistakes. That's what it is for.

Everywhere the war started, it was left incomplete. People were left to
die and civilians suffered still, because of largely a coercive view.

Whets the probability of the jehadi resistance halting completely after
the American occupation ends. None. If there has to be another Saddam there
will be. The key here lies in winning peoples hearts my friend. Not their
lands.

Sometimes you cannot kill a resistance, you can only change it. Its
hatred that we have to breach not peoples lives. This is what the politicians
have to learn, and we as people should know.
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