thoughts on love

[dreamgrl7943]

I'm listening to Sufjan Stevens, he's such a sucker for love, which i don't approve of, I mean love is wonderful and all, but it is so easily abused by selfish modivations. People uphold it by flowery admiration, dreams and fantasy, or wierd logic they don't really understand; and as soon as they lose their fantasy or lose trust in their own logic

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[opal_antlers]

"love

[planeskeep]

Dude, i SO think the media defines the dictionary defonitions. If you would like me to be more clear, i think Love maybe isn't the right word. But it is. Because its what were using.

Secondly, it kind of sounds like your looking outside of yourself for personal satisfaction, and by doing that you are setting yourself to be reliant on a temporal situation for your happiness.

Ruby is a person, she changes, she may stop praising you. She may even stop appreciating you. I'm not suggesting this, I am merely suggesting, for me, if i was in the situation, i would find happiness within myself, and then seek to share that happiness, and in doing so not setting myself up for disappointment, or regret.

Happiness from anything outside of myself is merely temporary, and can never make me happy in the long run.

However, if i am happy, myself, then i can enjoy what other people have to offer (their praises, their attention, etc.) without being attached to it, and without being bitter or regretful later if things change, as they invariably

[bassdrumdreams]

Well i've become a somewhat believer in the temporary merriment of making others happy.
I mean, true, playing risk doesn't deal with our inner conflicts, but i think
it's good for the ego. Just to have fun and not get stressed up in things.

[planeskeep]

I'm totally in agreement, if its done from the awaeness that this is the case, and that there are issues below it that need to be dealt with, and they will be dealt with in due time.

Howere, just escaping all the time is avoiding the problems at hand and causing myself to prolong the misery they cause me, and if i dealt with them more often, and give them due attention, instead of escaping all the time, i fell i would be a much better person for it.

Its not about denying myself anything, its about being open an honest to myself and saying "yep, i'm going to escape here for the moment, and enjoy this, but i know that there are other things going on, and i have to eventually deal with them, but sometimes i need a break, and right now, i'm taking one."

[bassdrumdreams]

::laughs;: well you never do the dishes!!!
hahaha, case in point, my reaction to roger's tenderness. hahaha.

I think the thing that breaks up relationships, are when it starts to go downhill, and rather than talk about it, they assume they never loved them to begin with. This happens all the time!

One of the things to watch out for is that, "i love making her happy" i do this too, and especially when they start not appreciating the things you do for them, like doing the dishes, two people can suddenly "fall out of love". The greatest test of love is when they tell you they don't love you anymore. ^_^ haha. i just thought it'd be funny to smile after that comment.

Here i am being un-serious after saying something serious. Changin' up those masks!

[planeskeep]

The grass is greener on the other side. Always.

But love isn't about that, its about accepting even if they don't love you, so brian is right about that.

You love someone if they tell you they don't love you, and you still love them. And i'm not talking about being infatuated, i think that is different.

And brian is also very right, when i base my happiness on someone else appreciating me, then i suddenly lose my happiness when they stop appreciating me. Therefor, it is temporary, and dependant.

I think it helps (wow- broken record syndrome) to find it within myself first, and then share it.

always the clown

[opal_antlers]

Thats brian, Mr. Funny Clown.

.... laughing on the outside, crying on the inside... (8^(

Ha ha. : )

Re: always the clown

[bassdrumdreams]

yeah, well you're crying on the outside and laughing on the inside!
take that!

Re: always the clown

[bassdrumdreams]

hahah, those faces are pretty funny. i didn't even see the frowny at the end, and i was like "why is it not finished?" and i looked down and saw the frowny, and the concept worked so well!
I felt i had stumbled upon roger's true emotions by exploring deeper. haha. a true livejournal archive moment, if i ever saw one.

[sien]

I think we're doing pretty good