You know what? I wish someone had said this at the start, and used an example like the one you gave. It makes a lot more sense put like that, and I think a lot more people would be a lot less confused.
Wow, thank you. You have no idea how close I came to not saying anything about this at all -- I've been keeping my mouth shut since this started -- so I'm really glad to see that what I had to say was useful.
I do think part of the problem is that the person whose job it was to inform us of this chance in the TOS (burr68, I think - I've not tagged his/her name because I'm not sure if I got the number right) wasn't sure what to say or how to say it, and that didn't help with the confusion issue.
Certainly. I think there's probably a whole other issue there that LJ would do well to correct -- that is, some better, less informal way of talking to its users about important things. I think they want to seem friendly and just-us-folks, but sometimes a company has to behave like a company, and put some thoughts into press releases rather than tasking someone to just explain the situation somehow.
some people seem to be deliberately writing stuff to stir up anti-LJ feelings, etc.
I could go on a whole other tangent about that. Fandom -- and this isn't about fanfic writers or anything, I mean The Whole Of Fandom -- tends to be very grassroots and anti-establishment. So in some ways I think anti-LJ feelings have risen up simply because LJ is large and must behave so, even though it's facilitated fandom in so many ways. It's sort of like Green Day's initial hardcore punk base turning away from them when they got popular, because being popular wasn't punk.
Thanks for keeping an eye out for that info -- I've been sort of surprised that so many people are using the "WfI's definition of pedophilia casts a wide net" argument and yet nobody's been able to give me the source. (You're not included in this; you're the first person to say they'd look for me, and I really appreciate that.)
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You know what? I wish someone had said this at the start, and used an example like the one you gave. It makes a lot more sense put like that, and I think a lot more people would be a lot less confused.
Wow, thank you. You have no idea how close I came to not saying anything about this at all -- I've been keeping my mouth shut since this started -- so I'm really glad to see that what I had to say was useful.
I do think part of the problem is that the person whose job it was to inform us of this chance in the TOS (burr68, I think - I've not tagged his/her name because I'm not sure if I got the number right) wasn't sure what to say or how to say it, and that didn't help with the confusion issue.
Certainly. I think there's probably a whole other issue there that LJ would do well to correct -- that is, some better, less informal way of talking to its users about important things. I think they want to seem friendly and just-us-folks, but sometimes a company has to behave like a company, and put some thoughts into press releases rather than tasking someone to just explain the situation somehow.
some people seem to be deliberately writing stuff to stir up anti-LJ feelings, etc.
I could go on a whole other tangent about that. Fandom -- and this isn't about fanfic writers or anything, I mean The Whole Of Fandom -- tends to be very grassroots and anti-establishment. So in some ways I think anti-LJ feelings have risen up simply because LJ is large and must behave so, even though it's facilitated fandom in so many ways. It's sort of like Green Day's initial hardcore punk base turning away from them when they got popular, because being popular wasn't punk.
Thanks for keeping an eye out for that info -- I've been sort of surprised that so many people are using the "WfI's definition of pedophilia casts a wide net" argument and yet nobody's been able to give me the source. (You're not included in this; you're the first person to say they'd look for me, and I really appreciate that.)
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