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classics_lover December 21 2015, 13:08:02 UTC
I always liked Gamlen. He never went out of his way to hide how crappy his parents made him feel or that he was always looking out for number 1 and nobody else. I love a grumpy curmudgeon of a character. And Gamlen gave zero fucks what anyone thought of him.

He did what he could to get the Hawkes into Kirkwall without going to loan sharks (which I honestly thought would be his Act 3 plotline he was such a spendthrift) and while I genuinely liked Leandra, I thought that she and Gamlen experienced very different upbringings, and she didn't seem to think his feelings were valid. He probably didn't realise that his parents' dying wish to see Leandra stemmed more from their regret at the parting of the ways in anger than in a preference for one child over another (especially the caretaker child) but he was so close to it, he couldn't see it. Of course if he hadn't kept the inheritence of the estate a secret, and then gambled it away, he'd have had a leg to stand on :P

The fact that he and Leandra continued to visit each other often even after she moved into the estate spoke volumes about them as siblings. They really needed to not live under the same roof in order to get on properly.

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itches December 22 2015, 03:48:14 UTC
The thing is, according to this chapter he didn't even gamble the estate away! A different relation got in deep dept with some villians, and then past away. Gamlen was the only relation left around, so they forced him to sell them the estate. It really wasn't his fault!

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classics_lover December 22 2015, 16:02:41 UTC
sonofa- !

Why wasn't *that* made more of in-game, the resentment must have really eaten him up!

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itches December 22 2015, 18:40:40 UTC
The beauty of retcons! He's not totally blameless, he did lose what was left of the money through a mixture of gambling and searching for the gem.

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classics_lover December 22 2015, 19:48:38 UTC
I never thought otherwise, especially when the guard in the Gallows knows Gamlem as a man without two coppers to rub together. ANd trying to get Leandra to pay rent. Definitely a spendthrift, and as I said earlier a grumpy curmudgeon who gives no fucks about being a dick to people, but (to quote someone else) he's not 100% a dick. And that not-100% is very interesting to me.

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itches December 22 2015, 21:15:27 UTC
The rent thing was never that bad. He was asking for rent or for her to contribute something for the food. After a year. That's totally reasonable!

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classics_lover December 22 2015, 21:18:46 UTC
Yes, I agree, but to *her* mind (and Hawke's) it was the absolute last straw, and he looked like the wastrel spendthrift she expected him to be.

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tov01 December 22 2015, 16:18:43 UTC
They really needed to not live under the same roof in order to get on properly.

Like Hawke and Carver?

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classics_lover December 22 2015, 17:27:40 UTC
Yes, exactly! Some things are genetic :)

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