Miss California / Gay Marriage
We talked about Miss CA today in Newspaper.
In case you haven't already heard she was asked by Perez Hilton (one of the judges in Miss USA pageant) her thoughts on gay marriage.
If you want to watch it:
www.youtube.com/watch
. Perez: Vermont recently became the fourth state to legalize same sex marriage, do you think every state should follow suite? Why or why not?
CA: Well, I think it's great that Americans are able to choose one or the other. Um, we live in a land that you can choose same sex marriage or opposite marriage and you know what? In my country and in my family I think that-- I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a women. No offense to anybody out there but that's how I was raised and that's how I think that it should be between a man and a women. Thank you. .
Anyways. So somehow we got on the topic. I hate to say this, but I agree with Perez. Many have said Miss CA's answer cost her the crown and a Jacob thought that was horrible and that she deserved it for speaking her opinion. But I certainly don't want her to represent the United States. And not just because she said "opposite marriage"
Normally differing opinions do not bother me one bit. I typically don't argue about things. But I feel very strongly about my right to get married. Jake and Jessica were saying that they didn't think it was that big of a deal. But I disagreed and called the opinion bigoted.
My teacher and Dylan agreed.
But Stephanie, who happens to be one of my best friends, seemed conflicted about the issue.
She finally came out with something along the lines of 'I don't see why it's that big of a deal. I don't think they should get married either' I brought up the fact that yes, I don't normally give a shit about others opinions, but when that opinion infringes upon people's rights I think it's ridiculous and wrong.
Steph even suggested at one point 'Why don't gays just go to the states it is legal to get married in?' Yeah, I used to think that when I thought of my future. But I love South Carolina. The state I was born, and grew up in. And really? I don't want to have to fucking move just so I can get benefits from the government. Fuck that. My rights should be covered ANYWHERE in the United States I wish to live. I'm not going around asking straight people to move to Idaho because they can't get married here. Mrs. Foster compared that to when settlers made Native Americans move to territories. Which, yeah, that's a drastic comparison, but on a much much lesser scale, it could be related.
That type of thought process just made me lose quite a bit of respect for Stephanie.
I knew before that she wasn't exactly all for gay marriage, but I never pushed the issue. However, lately there has been a lot of homophobic things going on (Prop 8, Amazon taking gay books off their list) and frankly, I'm just freaking tired of it.
I don't give a fuck about the marriage ceremony! Really, Christians can fucking keep their ceremonies and their churches. I just want the benefits of being able to maybe one day have a wife, to have tax cuts, or whatever. It's just so frustrating. Where the fuck is separation of church and state?
I know homosexuals are just another minority that has to go through the motions in order to get rights, but it's just so frustrating. I think the world is changing, that my generation is so much more accepting, and yes, we are, but there's still so much farther we have left to go. My fucking best friend doesn't think I have the right to get married.
That makes me feel horrible.
But there's no use trying to change her mind. I just hope the day comes that I same-sex couples can get married.
Another thing, Stephanie doesn't believe women should have power in the church. Or at least not a minister or anything. I know this because Dylan said some lesbian couple got married by a woman in front of the courthouse in CA. And Stephanie was baffled by that. She doesn't believe women should be able to marry people even, and ok, that's fine, it's your religion (she's a Mormon) but marrying people doesn't mean a religious ceremony. It just means a legal document. Even though I explained that, she still doesn't feel women should have that much power. "There are things men can do that women can't"
I feel belittled for both having two X chromosomes and for dating women.
On a lighter note. I am enjoying the open mind of some people online.
.
In case you haven't already heard she was asked by Perez Hilton (one of the judges in Miss USA pageant) her thoughts on gay marriage.
If you want to watch it:
www.youtube.com/watch
. Perez: Vermont recently became the fourth state to legalize same sex marriage, do you think every state should follow suite? Why or why not?
CA: Well, I think it's great that Americans are able to choose one or the other. Um, we live in a land that you can choose same sex marriage or opposite marriage and you know what? In my country and in my family I think that-- I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a women. No offense to anybody out there but that's how I was raised and that's how I think that it should be between a man and a women. Thank you. .
Anyways. So somehow we got on the topic. I hate to say this, but I agree with Perez. Many have said Miss CA's answer cost her the crown and a Jacob thought that was horrible and that she deserved it for speaking her opinion. But I certainly don't want her to represent the United States. And not just because she said "opposite marriage"
Normally differing opinions do not bother me one bit. I typically don't argue about things. But I feel very strongly about my right to get married. Jake and Jessica were saying that they didn't think it was that big of a deal. But I disagreed and called the opinion bigoted.
My teacher and Dylan agreed.
But Stephanie, who happens to be one of my best friends, seemed conflicted about the issue.
She finally came out with something along the lines of 'I don't see why it's that big of a deal. I don't think they should get married either' I brought up the fact that yes, I don't normally give a shit about others opinions, but when that opinion infringes upon people's rights I think it's ridiculous and wrong.
Steph even suggested at one point 'Why don't gays just go to the states it is legal to get married in?' Yeah, I used to think that when I thought of my future. But I love South Carolina. The state I was born, and grew up in. And really? I don't want to have to fucking move just so I can get benefits from the government. Fuck that. My rights should be covered ANYWHERE in the United States I wish to live. I'm not going around asking straight people to move to Idaho because they can't get married here. Mrs. Foster compared that to when settlers made Native Americans move to territories. Which, yeah, that's a drastic comparison, but on a much much lesser scale, it could be related.
That type of thought process just made me lose quite a bit of respect for Stephanie.
I knew before that she wasn't exactly all for gay marriage, but I never pushed the issue. However, lately there has been a lot of homophobic things going on (Prop 8, Amazon taking gay books off their list) and frankly, I'm just freaking tired of it.
I don't give a fuck about the marriage ceremony! Really, Christians can fucking keep their ceremonies and their churches. I just want the benefits of being able to maybe one day have a wife, to have tax cuts, or whatever. It's just so frustrating. Where the fuck is separation of church and state?
I know homosexuals are just another minority that has to go through the motions in order to get rights, but it's just so frustrating. I think the world is changing, that my generation is so much more accepting, and yes, we are, but there's still so much farther we have left to go. My fucking best friend doesn't think I have the right to get married.
That makes me feel horrible.
But there's no use trying to change her mind. I just hope the day comes that I same-sex couples can get married.
Another thing, Stephanie doesn't believe women should have power in the church. Or at least not a minister or anything. I know this because Dylan said some lesbian couple got married by a woman in front of the courthouse in CA. And Stephanie was baffled by that. She doesn't believe women should be able to marry people even, and ok, that's fine, it's your religion (she's a Mormon) but marrying people doesn't mean a religious ceremony. It just means a legal document. Even though I explained that, she still doesn't feel women should have that much power. "There are things men can do that women can't"
I feel belittled for both having two X chromosomes and for dating women.
On a lighter note. I am enjoying the open mind of some people online.
.