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lupie_stardust October 9 2008, 16:11:39 UTC
Nnnn. Oh god, oh god. What on earth are we going to do? I mean, I'm British, so I can't do that voting thing, but, fuck this is scary shit.

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anahata56 October 9 2008, 16:18:44 UTC
The GOOD news is that, because Sarah Palin is such a douchenozzle, and so much a laughingstock in the public eye, that this kind of BS is actually getting ink in the public press. Not just left-wing stuff, but all over. She and her "Pastor", that Muthhee fella, are being exposed for the wingnuts they are, and they are not gaining, but losing credibility, because their agendas are being exposed.

This goes on all the time, and it has been. But thanks to spokesmodel Sarah Palin and her national exposure, more and more people are becoming aware that these kind of people exist--and I don't think that anyone in their right mind (and I am not including their fellow wingnuts in that number) wants to have anything to do with them.

But if we see things like this, then it is our duty to expose it and get rid of it. Period.

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siliconshaman October 9 2008, 16:27:24 UTC
The problem is however, their fellow wingnuts are already in power. And quite capable of tearing up the Constitution just so they stay there.

I can see Bush deciding that since they are losing, he use the financial crisis to declare martial law [as per executive order 51 if your read it], suspend the elections and either stay in power himself, or make McCain his appointed successor, with some kind of executive power in the interim.

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underlankers October 9 2008, 18:28:33 UTC
Bush? Do that? The man can barely find his own ass if the damn thing was braying in his ear! If Bush were smarter, I'd be right with you, but the SOB is one of the stupidest men to have ever sat in the White House. I give it 2 years before the GOP starts accusing him of being a closet Democrat...

If Bush were smarter, I'd agree with you, he'd be a threat. The man seems too stupid for that, IMHO.

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siliconshaman October 9 2008, 16:22:08 UTC
I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have a problem with slipping McCain some poison The Lord making her a way so that she's President.

As for stopping her...well, if voting fails, I suggest we vote from the rooftops. One .50cal vote to the head should do it.

A radical sounding solution, as no doubt someone will point out. But consider how America was founded. If it's no more and no less than what is necessary, then one shouldn't shirk one's duty simply because it's distasteful to modern sensibilities.

And yes, I may be British.. but when one is living next-door to a psychotic 800lb gorilla, you take an interest in what it's doing.

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underlankers October 9 2008, 18:26:16 UTC
America was founded by an illegal usurpation of rightful governmental authority by some people who were ungrateful to you British bastards for saving our butts from the frogs. The Founders were a bunch of people that felt that obeying the proper laws and authorities were beneath them, and their attitudes towards Indians were frankly genocidal.

Appealing to the Revolutionary generation as a model of anything good is not that wise. The Constitution was a betrayal of the principles of the Revolution. We should have just stuck with the goddamn Articles and none of this shit would have ever happened...

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siliconshaman October 9 2008, 20:36:35 UTC
Actually, that's kinda my point. America was founded by what was essentially an illegal act, as you put it. Given that the current regime is, while legal, not exactly moral.. then perhaps the solution is an extra-legal act again.

When the crooks make the laws, honest people become outlaws.

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underlankers October 9 2008, 20:48:09 UTC
Eh, Lenin had the same bright idea...and in 20 years the Russian peasants were starving and entire towns were charnel houses. I'd rather the Devil we know than the one we don't. And FYI, I'm not exactly safe under these kooks, particularly considering I'm hard of hearing. I've already had one dipshit attempt a faith healing on me. Next fool that tries that gets cold-cocked and hard.

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