the brilliant Toshiko Sato made a cameo posing as a physician. Do you think she would have made a good companion for the Doctor? If so, which Doctor would you pair her with? Who's writing this--Davies or Moffat? :)
Tosh is brilliant, a little too brilliant and too emotionally honest, therefore vulnerable to travel with someone as wounded and abrasive as Ten was. I can see her with Nine-before he meets Rose-- but I also imagine Tosh leaving as Romana or Liz Shaw did to pursue her interest. However, of the three NU Who, Doctors, I would say Tosh would be wonderful with Eleven, with the right team of people. I see Toshiko more as UNIT personnel, or a friend/colleague of River's.
If she had been invited along with Nine and Rose, how do you think she and Jack Harkness might have interacted in the context of fellow travelers in Doctor Who, as opposed to supervisor-worker in Torchwood
It’s difficult to imagine this scenario. In the canon Nine- Rose-Jack dynamic that Davies created, introducing Toshiko into the mix would only serve the purpose of shoving the attractive "Other" woman toward the attractive "Other" man in order to keep the Doctor and Rose exclusive for each other. Friends or lovers, Jack and Toshiko’s story would be as background noise, or observers, assuring fans that neither character is a threat to the romance of the lead character. Above everything else, Season One and Two was the love story between the Doctor and Rose, and I think Davies has said pretty much this. Doctor Ten and Nine TARDIS doesn’t lend itself to an Ian and Barbara situation, because the primary function of the Season One and Two third and fourth wheel character was too declare as Mickey Smith does: “there goes Rose Tyler and the Doctor in the TARDIS.”
Also the Jack who was Tosh’s supervisor, is an considerably older, and many ways very different man than the Jack who travels with Rose and Nine and I frankly loved the big brother, protective, relationship between Tosh and Jack.
Ten might have been okay with an extra woman (Sarah, Reinette) but I can't see Nine coping with an extra person well at all. He was way too unhealthily fixated on Rose. I wouldn't want to see Toshiko get treated like a spare part.
I did suggest Tosh meet Nine Before he meets Rose. And Sarah didn't travel with Rose and the Doctor, and Reinette--even though it seems she and Rose decided to share(easily enough as Reinette was the King's mistress was accustomed to compromise--) conveniently died.
We so completely agree on being unwilling to see Toshiko treated as a spare part--which is why I can't imagine Toshiko with Ten and Rose either--she'd have her hand, --like Mickey's-- on the spare button, or they would bring some dude or dudette to distract Tosh because what woman can resist Davies' Ten. Also Davies seems to picture women of color as carriers of unrequited affections, and Moffat envisions them, at least dark complexioned women as oversexed, and Asian women as intellecrual but somewhat remote until mature beyond the Doctor's interest to romance.
Smart, pretty, sexy women in the Davies era don't come to a good end if they were not Rose, and Moffat seems to think --see his statement about age limits for Companions--women over forty have the sex appeal of cold dinner rolls. More so with Ten than Nine, the focus was on the Truuuuuu Luv between the Doctor and Rose. Any female would have been a spare part--or star dust.
But now that you mentioned it Ten, Donna, and Tosh, or Ten Martha, and Tosh, would have been fun. I think a brainy team of Jones and Sato might have been brilliant to the point of fans asking "Doctor Who? With good writers Tosh with Ten "after-Rose" might have saved us all the cringe-worthy unrequited love nonsense of Season Three.
I disagree. This is the man that cast Alex Kingston as River Song. Wow, I didnt know Alex was almost fifty--I thought she was closer in age to David Tennant. But you're right-I should amend that women over fifty. Paraphased Moffat said there would be no 60 year old (Think Helen Mirren) companions. He's missing out as those English Dames hold up nicely. Do you know his exact quote?
And looks quite stunning, as well (Alex that is). Moffatt, however, seems very good at inserting his foot, doesn't he? No, I don't know the quote, but he is definitely missing out.
Here's the article which has a brief quote from the Doctor Who magazine article. I didn't buy it--12.00 bucks or more for a periodical I want a dvd or pictorial references! Okay, I did buy the special Sarah Jane Adventures issue.
Upon second reading, he does seem to be saying what he wouldn't consider, as much as what sells:
He also says: They're all going to be a bit mad. A bit dislocated. Not happy with where they are. Are they yearning for outer space? What show was he watching when he was a kid--he's only ten years younger than I am, so he was four when I fourteen and the show came on American television, but I don't reall the Companions being a bit mad, dislocated, except when the TARDIS whisked them away, or unhappy with their lives. Quite the opposite.
However, in that vein, although accomplished, and in spite of everything Toshwas quite sane, but wasn't completely happy becausse she didn't have 'love" so I guess she would fit in with Moffat's model, since he doesn't mind accomplished women at all.
He says or is quoted as saying:No. Is it going to be someone in their 60s? No. Is there going to be a particular age range? I mean... who's going to have a crush on the Doctor
I'd go before he got to the "go" the "Do you want to--" ., Crush no, unless it's Eight, but since when was having a crush on the Doctor criteria for traveling with him?
the brilliant Toshiko Sato made a cameo posing as a physician. Do you think she would have made a good companion for the Doctor? If so, which Doctor would you pair her with?
Who's writing this--Davies or Moffat? :)
Tosh is brilliant, a little too brilliant and too emotionally honest, therefore vulnerable to travel with someone as wounded and abrasive as Ten was. I can see her with Nine-before he meets Rose-- but I also imagine Tosh leaving as Romana or Liz Shaw did to pursue her interest. However, of the three NU Who, Doctors, I would say Tosh would be wonderful with Eleven, with the right team of people. I see Toshiko more as UNIT personnel, or a friend/colleague of River's.
If she had been invited along with Nine and Rose, how do you think she and Jack Harkness might have interacted in the context of fellow travelers in Doctor Who, as opposed to supervisor-worker in Torchwood
It’s difficult to imagine this scenario. In the canon Nine- Rose-Jack dynamic that Davies created, introducing Toshiko into the mix would only serve the purpose of shoving the attractive "Other" woman toward the attractive "Other" man in order to keep the Doctor and Rose exclusive for each other.
Friends or lovers, Jack and Toshiko’s story would be as background noise, or observers, assuring fans that neither character is a threat to the romance of the lead character. Above everything else, Season One and Two was the love story between the Doctor and Rose, and I think Davies has said pretty much this. Doctor Ten and Nine TARDIS doesn’t lend itself to an Ian and Barbara situation, because the primary function of the Season One and Two third and fourth wheel character was too declare as Mickey Smith does: “there goes Rose Tyler and the Doctor in the TARDIS.”
Also the Jack who was Tosh’s supervisor, is an considerably older, and many ways very different man than the Jack who travels with Rose and Nine and I frankly loved the big brother, protective, relationship between Tosh and Jack.
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We so completely agree on being unwilling to see Toshiko treated as a spare part--which is why I can't imagine Toshiko with Ten and Rose either--she'd have her hand, --like Mickey's-- on the spare button, or they would bring some dude or dudette to distract Tosh because what woman can resist Davies' Ten.
Also Davies seems to picture women of color as carriers of unrequited affections, and Moffat envisions them, at least dark complexioned women as oversexed, and Asian women as intellecrual but somewhat remote until mature beyond the Doctor's interest to romance.
Smart, pretty, sexy women in the Davies era don't come to a good end if they were not Rose, and Moffat seems to think --see his statement about age limits for Companions--women over forty have the sex appeal of cold dinner rolls. More so with Ten than Nine, the focus was on the Truuuuuu Luv between the Doctor and Rose. Any female would have been a spare part--or star dust.
But now that you mentioned it Ten, Donna, and Tosh, or Ten Martha, and Tosh, would have been fun. I think a brainy team of Jones and Sato might have been brilliant to the point of fans asking "Doctor Who? With good writers Tosh with Ten "after-Rose" might have saved us all the cringe-worthy unrequited love nonsense of Season Three.
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I disagree. This is the man that cast Alex Kingston as River Song.
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But you're right-I should amend that women over fifty. Paraphased Moffat said there would be no 60 year old (Think Helen Mirren) companions. He's missing out as those English Dames hold up nicely. Do you know his exact quote?
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Upon second reading, he does seem to be saying what he wouldn't consider, as much as what sells:
http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/steven-moffat-teases-new-doctor-who-companion/267699
He also says: They're all going to be a bit mad. A bit dislocated. Not happy with where they are. Are they yearning for outer space? What show was he watching when he was a kid--he's only ten years younger than I am, so he was four when I fourteen and the show came on American television, but I don't reall the Companions being a bit mad, dislocated, except when the TARDIS whisked them away, or unhappy with their lives. Quite the opposite.
However, in that vein, although accomplished, and in spite of everything Toshwas quite sane, but wasn't completely happy becausse she didn't have 'love" so I guess she would fit in with Moffat's model, since he doesn't mind accomplished women at all.
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I'd go before he got to the "go" the "Do you want to--" ., Crush no, unless it's Eight, but since when was having a crush on the Doctor criteria for traveling with him?
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