Nu Who Meta: the "darkest" Doctor of the new era

[kilodalton]

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[light_frost]

I think the Ninth Doctor had more dark moments, but Eleven's moments are more intense; especially in "A Town Called Mercy."

Ten meets somewhere in the middle, although I did find "The Waters of Mars" to be particularly frightening.

[nostalgia_lj]

I think I was more scared that Eleven might actually shoot someone than I was when Ten was pointing a gun at that dude that killed Jenny. Eleven's self-hatred spills over onto other people quite a bit.

[wake_the_dragon]

I agree. I believed more in Eleven nearly shooting someone than Ten because of what he said: "I honestly don't know."

Eleven can be very intense.

[nostalgia_lj]

I'd travel with Eleven rather than Ten but he has his scary moments when he could do just about anything.

[light_frost]

Yeah, that's what I meant by "more intense"; Eleven was getting very emotional and rapidly losing control. I think he was very close to shooting somebody if Amy hadn't stopped him.

is that psychological projection, do you think? Certainly he sees himself in Jex. Poor guy.

I think Nine's main motivation for his darkness is survivor's guilt. (I don't know about Ten; I haven't watched his seasons in a long time. I forgot about the thing with Jenny). Eleven's seems to be self-hatred. I guess the guilt evolved into that. :(

[nostalgia_lj]

Idk I just find I always assume Eleven is seeing himself in other people and/or projecting his own guilts onto them.

Eleven seems to have painful levels of self-awareness going on.

[gwaithgweneth]

Usually I go with the Doctor seeing himself in people he fights, just as a sort of general rule. In this case I think it was a lot of "You don't know me, don't ever suggest I wouldn't do what had to be done". But I also suspect that guy was basically committing suicide by Doctor.

Eleven is very emotional and there are definitely cracks in his control. I don't think he's anywhere near as out of control as Ten was yet, though