New clip, spoiler in cast list of episode, Television Centre tribute, EW magazine, Peter Jackson

Mar 21, 2013 22:27

New clip of 'The Bells of St. John'. Features a conversation between the Doctor and Clara.

A warning (or heads-up!). There's an interesting spoiler in the cast list for the episode on the BBC website:
[Spoiler (click to open)]The Great Intelligence - Richard E Grant ...Hmmm... The World Wide Web of Fear?

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jackdavfan692 March 24 2013, 20:33:09 UTC
Possibly so. *Nods* Good theory =)!
I know nothing of TGI having not seen those old serials (which are also lost stories)
Yeah, I don't know a whole lot about it either, except that in the story(ies?) it appeared in, it controlled robotic Yetis/Abominable Snowmen, and the Doctor tricked it by trapping it in the London subway or something (Moffat actually had the Doctor make a reference to the "London Underground" in "The Snowmen". I think it occurred when he was talking to the Great Intelligence in Dr. Simeon's office.). Here's my reasoning for why the Great Intelligence might be connected to everything I mentioned in my previous comment:
-Clara appeared with it in "The Snowmen", and almost single-handedly defeated it.
-Clara, in the form of Oswin, pretty much helped the Doctor finish erasing himself from history when she made the Daleks forget him in "Asylum Of The Daleks", so now everyone and everything, including his greatest enemy, is asking 'The Question'- "Doctor Who?"

-The aliens who appeared in "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day Of The Moon" are part of a religious order, cult, sect, whatever you want to call it, known as The Order of The Silence, which is willing to do anything to keep the Doctor from going to Trenzalore and answering "The Question", so it's possible the Great Intelligence is said Order's leader, prophet, or deity.

I think the idea of bringing back in a big way an enemy from lost serials is very sweet.
Same here 8). *Nods* As someone who's only familiar with New Who (though BBC America's celebration of the 50th, "The Doctors Revisited", is giving me a taste of Classic Who by showing one story starring each Doctor. It's up to Doc 3 now, and will be airing "Spearhead From Space" on the 31st), I find any appearance(s) from something(s) from the Classic era cool. One of my biggest wishes, due in part to how increasingly dark Eleven seems to be getting, is that Moffat will bring the Valeyard back in some form (It's already kind of been done with the Dream Lord, so hopefully, it'll only be a matter of time before Moffat & company go all the way and do the above B).).

I know Neil Cross has written at least one ep for this part of the season (it's called "Hide"), but I'm not sure of the validity of the claim that he's written a second one that takes place in New Zealand and is being directed by Peter Jackson. Would be cool if it were true, though =)!

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ibishtar March 24 2013, 20:42:18 UTC
Yes to everything you said, including the return of the Valeyard! The Dream Lord is a way of giving the concept a New Series genesis (since the Time Lords are gone), like they did with the Cybermen.
Neil Cross has written two episodes for series 7, Hide and Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS, neither set in New Zealand or directed by Peter Jackson, of course. Who knows what may happen in the future, but I'm assuming that Moffat would want the privilege to write the story that gets made by PJ.

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jackdavfan692 March 24 2013, 21:32:37 UTC
Ah, I didn't know that. Interesting =]! I think I immediately assumed the Dream Lord was kind of the groundwork for a return of the Valeyard because at the time I saw "Amy's Choice", I'd relatively recently read about that character in the DW Wiki.

Oh, I didn't realize he'd penned two episodes (I knew about "Journey To The Centre of The TARDIS", but I thought someone else had written it)! That's new. We've had a number of two-parters written by the same person ("The Rebel Flesh"/"The Almost People" comes to mind), but I can't recall when that's happened with two completely separate stories.
Who knows what may happen in the future, but I'm assuming that Moffat would want the privilege to write the story that gets made by PJ.
Yeah, probably :P. Assuming Moffat's going to actually write an episode about Trenzalore (and hasn't done so already), I can see Peter Jackson at the director's helm, given its pretty significant epicness, character & story-wise :].

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ibishtar March 24 2013, 21:42:52 UTC
Oh, the first thing I said is just speculation on my part, I don't know that they want to bring back the Valeyard, but if they did I think connecting it to the Dream Lord would be a good way to do it.
Chris Chibnall wrote Dinosaurs on a Spaceship and The Power of Three, and Mark Gatiss wrote Cold War and The Crimson Horror. It's just something that's happening this series, since there are no two-parters.
Now that's a thought! Although I got a feeling Trenzalore will happen at the end of this series and lead into the 50th.

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jackdavfan692 March 28 2013, 06:19:44 UTC
Ah, gotcha :].
I don't know that they want to bring back the Valeyard, but if they did I think connecting it to the Dream Lord would be a good way to do it.
Cool to hear you agree with me 8).

Oh, he did?! I had no idea! Shows just how little attention I pay to the opening credits of the episodes :}. So both Neil Cross and Mark Gatiss are writing two episodes for this part of S7?! Interesting info, thanks :)!

Possibly. *Nods* Though I read just today that in an interview, Matt said he'd be staying on through 2014. Of course, that could just mean he'll be doing the 2013 Christmas special, in which, like David Tennant's doctor did, he'll regenerate. We'll just have to see.

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