Rant - "the woman candidate"

Aug 30, 2008 07:42

Those of you expecting a rant against the Republicans on this score, you're about to be disappointed.  Nor is it praise for them. Nor anything about the Democrats ( Read more... )

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ilcylic August 30 2008, 15:43:27 UTC
"Who's Senator Palin, Jimmy?" "She's the Republican's woman candidate." Uh, huh.

Governor.

Well, I have to cop to referring to her as "Sarah Palin", too, but I call all the candidates by their names, (titles are for feudalisms) and I've certainly being doing it with respect. But then, she's the person I hoped would get picked for the position for a couple months, now.

I'm full of acid, and perfectly willing to admit it, but not over Mrs. Palin. :D I wish she wasn't a twit about gay marriage (well, I wish she wasn't a twit about abortion too, but that one's way more entrenched as a GOP thing) but overall, I really like her. The bit about selling off the executive jet that her predecessor bought on credit, on Ebay, well, that just warms the cockles of my dank black soul.

I had an amusing exchange with R. last night, where I said I must be channelling her, because it was pissing me off all the people who are saying she just got the job 'cause she's a girl. As though she couldn't possibly have been picked for her merits.

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attutle August 30 2008, 17:14:27 UTC
"As though she couldn't possibly have been picked for her merits.I hadn't paid the slightest attention to who McCain might be looking at for a VP, and didn't have any clue who might be on the list, but when Obama selected Biden instead of Hillary, I was certain McCain would select a female VP ( ... )

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ilcylic August 30 2008, 17:28:06 UTC
I'm not attempting to claim that it was entirely a non-factor. I'm haranguing the people I've heard claiming it's the only reason she was picked.

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attutle August 30 2008, 18:14:04 UTC
Yeah, obviously they put some though into it, instead of picking randomly from a phonebook.

Anyway, his short list was leaked some time ago.

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docstrange August 30 2008, 20:52:28 UTC
There are people for whom the gender mix on the ticket is the most important issue...

Agreed. And the tendency of some to discount that set of single-issue voters while not similarly discounting other single-issue voters is very telling.

Also generally agreed on the other points. Thanks.

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cruiser August 31 2008, 19:27:50 UTC
It's entirely possible Palin is also the best candidate if you discount gender

Since getting elected is about getting votes, and gender is a factor in getting votes, you CAN'T discount gender. Keep in mind that in choosing a running mate, a presidential candidate is far less interested in picking the best person for the job than he/she is in picking the person most likely to help him/her win the election.

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docstrange August 30 2008, 19:16:26 UTC
re: Senator - yeah, that came off wrong, as I was just being extra snide there spoofing those old prejudice commercials. I am perfectly happy to discuss all Gov. Palin's qualifications, disqualifications, positions, bad ideas, good ideas, etc. I am also happy most of the comments in here are to those effect.

Certainly her being a woman with executive experience played a role. I'm just stunned at all the lefties I know - and I'm pretty darned left socially - talking about her in the terms I put forth above. Those were actual quotes.

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