“Love is a symbol of eternity. It wipes out all sense of time, destroying all memory of a beginning and all fear of an end.”I had almost forgotten what it was like
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Not understand, Chevalierdepees? Oh but it is a matter of truly sensing with the soul! Ah... Have you ever had the pleasure of 'spirit brushing'? It's amazing... Something invisible overtaking you, starting off with soft tinglings, shivers... (with me mostly on the right side) a feeling under your skin, pulling slightly at your head. It can almost send you right into some strange reverie, it's almost like your soul is being massaged... It's pleasurable, highly pleasurable even, though one must pay attention not to get lost in it. But once you've had a taste of the possibilities... leveling souls, interflowing energies... you can never go back again... I just wrote about that in my journal as well... It may not be the same... but I think it sure as hell comes close... Thàt way though, as deep as that, that spiritual connection, there were no real words are needed anymore, that is the only TRUE way of loving...
Well, you both make it sound divine. *smiles* But...trouble is I don't believe I have a soul. It's all in our minds, to me. But perhaps the mind and the soul are one and the same? Well, I just negated my own arguement. *laughs* I've never had such an experience. Maybe you are right.... It certainly is possible to connect deeply with another, through whatever means, and to feel so intensely. Still, it is very hard for me to fathom such depth of emotion for anything. I think such a thing would effectively shatter me.
It would change you indefinitely. It did me. My moment (my point of no return) was with a very close friend. Evening, all quiet, just musing together in silence. We were just snuggled up on the couch and I had my head on his chest, listening to his heart beating (I like doing that with people I care about) and I was thinking (!) to myself; "I wonder if one can make two hearts beat simultaneously
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Fascinating! I've heard of (and witnessed) such incidents before but never experienced anything similar firsthand. I don't think I wish to. *smiles* But I can see why it would change a person.
Ah, each to it's own of course. If you don't wish to chances are you will not either. So not to worry, uhm? I have been 'interested' in these sort of things for as far as I can remember. So I guess... It starts early...
Quite an interesting conversation the two of you are having. Please feel free to carry on if you wish. I'm quite enjoying it. It's as though I am seeing this topic from two completely different but equally fascinating points of view. Chevalierdepees, I must say I am curious as to why you do not believe you have a soul. Personally, I am undecided as far as souls go... If I do have one, it is most certainly damned *laughs*.
What Denise has described here is certainly rare, although I believe I have experienced something similar. Of course, my methods of connecting with another on such an intimate level are quite different than yours would be. I understand, Chevalier, that your reasons for not wanting to experience such a connection are entirely your own, but I wonder if you might tell me more? Are you simply solitary by nature, or is there more to it than that?
Uhm well my dear... he... my ways on connecting on an intimate level are not that different perhaps (yet anyway and it may take a while still too)
I am not one to connect with many people that easily... Just with some... And it's quite the experience... The spirit-brushing were not with any real life persons either actually... More with ones that once were alive... They who have immortality in yet another way...
But I guess, that would seem even more strange for one who does not believe in having a soul...
I don't quite know if I can explain why I believe some of what I do. I think, what I mean by not having a "soul" is having a conscious part of myself which may retain shape and identity after death. The concept of eternity is horrifying to me, it's much easier for me to imagine whatever making us "us" dissolving (for the most part) after our undoing. Well, I could tell you more, but I don't know if that would clarify things as much as they would make them sillier. *smiles* I don't quite understand the reasons myself. I am solitary, I shy away from such deep connection with people, maybe I'm afraid of what it might do to me if I surrendered such trust to another human being. Emotions are a sign of weakness to me, deep down, even if I know that reasonably this is not true. ...that didn't make any sense at all did it?
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Well, I just negated my own arguement. *laughs* I've never had such an experience. Maybe you are right.... It certainly is possible to connect deeply with another, through whatever means, and to feel so intensely. Still, it is very hard for me to fathom such depth of emotion for anything. I think such a thing would effectively shatter me.
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What Denise has described here is certainly rare, although I believe I have experienced something similar. Of course, my methods of connecting with another on such an intimate level are quite different than yours would be. I understand, Chevalier, that your reasons for not wanting to experience such a connection are entirely your own, but I wonder if you might tell me more? Are you simply solitary by nature, or is there more to it than that?
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I am not one to connect with many people that easily... Just with some... And it's quite the experience... The spirit-brushing were not with any real life persons either actually... More with ones that once were alive... They who have immortality in yet another way...
But I guess, that would seem even more strange for one who does not believe in having a soul...
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Well, I could tell you more, but I don't know if that would clarify things as much as they would make them sillier. *smiles* I don't quite understand the reasons myself. I am solitary, I shy away from such deep connection with people, maybe I'm afraid of what it might do to me if I surrendered such trust to another human being. Emotions are a sign of weakness to me, deep down, even if I know that reasonably this is not true.
...that didn't make any sense at all did it?
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