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godemp October 4 2008, 06:26:24 UTC
I am pro-life in every sense you outlined except in the that of abortion, where I am truly pro-choice.

Honestly, most women who would get an abortion are not the people I want raising kids. There are obviously exceptions, but it definably marks most as a non-humanitarian.

Also, I think it would be terrifically psychologically damaging to know that, specifically, the only reason one is alive is that abortion was illegal.

I would like there to be no abortions, but not why you do. I want the people to be educated and responsible enough to not need an abortion, where you (tell me if I'm wrong) see intrinsic value in human life.

And, I fully support the privacy implications of Roe V Wade.

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dissent_is_cool October 5 2008, 20:10:23 UTC
Well, I can tell you that I agree that people ought "to be educated and responsible enough to not need an abortion," but I do see "intrinsic value in human life." How can there not be value in life? That to seems to me to be an overly cynical view on life. It apparently is your view and it is the result of the sum total of your life expreiences. I respect that view, but I disagree.

You mention that "most women who would get an abortion are not the people I want raising kids." To a certain extent I agree, but these people would not need to have an abortion if they were educated enough to prevent an unwanted pregnancy all together ( ... )

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godemp October 5 2008, 20:38:58 UTC
No, I do see intrinsic value in human life, but that is not why I am against abortion. I should have been a bit more clear. It seems that you are mostly against abortion from an moral and emotional perspective, and I am against it for a selfish reason ( ... )

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dissent_is_cool October 5 2008, 20:45:32 UTC
Ah, yes, I agree. People need to abandon extremism.lol!

See? We agree on a lot here! And, yes, personal responsibility is a huge part of it as well. I neglected that, which is my fault. That should really be the bedrock of the whole issue: taking responsibility for our actions.

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godemp October 5 2008, 20:52:12 UTC
Most education is worthless if we do not couple it with responsibility and if people don't care what harm their actions cause others. Unfortunately, this is an extremist perspective ;)

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