Re: Trigger warnings: DAguiltyhousewifeApril 15 2011, 18:18:41 UTC
You know, I'm usually not a comment-whore (that term cracks me up while still befuddling me) but I would actually love to hear your detailed imput on that fill. That fic was by far my most ambitious and timely, and one of the only ones I did a rough draft and proofread for. I listened to that song over and over, part one and two.
I used to think, too, that the song was a glorification of DA, and sadly I still think that some naive girls are going to believe that their domestic abuse situation has beauty and validation because of the video, but I don't think, now, that the song really means that at all. Some of the lyrics really hit at the complications of the mindsets of abuser and abused. People tend to think the abuser is just one big, two-dimensions villain, and while he/she is to blame, evil or mal-intent isn't often the driving force behind their abuse. There is pain in the heart of the abuser as well. Abuse is often a desperate attempt to regain control over a relationship, an expression of low self esteem and lack of confidence.
Lol, sorry if I was ranting, but domestic-abuse is something I have always been active and interested in. My Women's Literature paper earlier this month was discussing whether or not Jane Eyre is a romanticization of male-violence. If I get more prompts related to domestic-abuse in homosexual relationships, I'd like to explore it further.
Re: Trigger warnings: DAafterandalasiaApril 15 2011, 18:50:22 UTC
I'm just finishing another fill (very cute and fluffy, total contrast to this and to my usual writing style, hah) but I do plan to sit down and read it through thoroughly, so you may get a tl;dr of a response there.
It may be because I'm creepy by nature but... I hooked into the dark side of the song pretty well straight off. I hadn't heard that there was a second part before, though. I know what you mean about some people reading things wrong, but you always get that. Wuthering Heights is, of course, the classic for that one. But the whole situation in abusive relationships is damaging, and often (but not always) linked to vulnerability, on both sides, the only time that you really can draw parallels between the two sides I think.
Nah, it's fine, I don't think you're ranting at all. I think it is an important issue, and that it's good that people are aware of it. I hadn't considered Jane Eyre in that light before, I may need to reread it. Though with my dark streak, it might explain why I found the work of the Brontës more alluring than the work of, for example, Jane Austen...
(As an aside, if you read Twilight starting with the presumption that Edward casts a spell of obsession over Bella, it gets a lot more interesting.)
I used to think, too, that the song was a glorification of DA, and sadly I still think that some naive girls are going to believe that their domestic abuse situation has beauty and validation because of the video, but I don't think, now, that the song really means that at all. Some of the lyrics really hit at the complications of the mindsets of abuser and abused. People tend to think the abuser is just one big, two-dimensions villain, and while he/she is to blame, evil or mal-intent isn't often the driving force behind their abuse. There is pain in the heart of the abuser as well. Abuse is often a desperate attempt to regain control over a relationship, an expression of low self esteem and lack of confidence.
Lol, sorry if I was ranting, but domestic-abuse is something I have always been active and interested in. My Women's Literature paper earlier this month was discussing whether or not Jane Eyre is a romanticization of male-violence. If I get more prompts related to domestic-abuse in homosexual relationships, I'd like to explore it further.
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It may be because I'm creepy by nature but... I hooked into the dark side of the song pretty well straight off. I hadn't heard that there was a second part before, though. I know what you mean about some people reading things wrong, but you always get that. Wuthering Heights is, of course, the classic for that one. But the whole situation in abusive relationships is damaging, and often (but not always) linked to vulnerability, on both sides, the only time that you really can draw parallels between the two sides I think.
Nah, it's fine, I don't think you're ranting at all. I think it is an important issue, and that it's good that people are aware of it. I hadn't considered Jane Eyre in that light before, I may need to reread it. Though with my dark streak, it might explain why I found the work of the Brontës more alluring than the work of, for example, Jane Austen...
(As an aside, if you read Twilight starting with the presumption that Edward casts a spell of obsession over Bella, it gets a lot more interesting.)
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