The Celestial TICKMaker

Jul 27, 2006 11:12

On rolls the season poll saga to Bill H's last full year as the Doctor - featuring monster epic The Dalek Master Plan, controversial musical interludes, THE MONOIDS, and much more ( Read more... )

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atommickbrane July 27 2006, 10:42:55 UTC
WOTAN is the second best companion that never was!

I have actually read a rub PAST DOCTOR ADVENTURE book, Doctor 5 I think, which returned to the Celestial Toymaker which started off really good ie by making references to Adric's body odour all the time, and then flashbacks to REBELLIOUS DOCTOR at Gallifrey Junior High, but then got bogged down in all the crap that I'm sure made Celestial Toymaker bad anyway. NB when I say "seen", I'm counting the bit of the episode that's in the Hartnell years where companions play stepping stones and some extra is Bill's STUNT HANDS playing what appears to be TriOminos.

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atommickbrane July 27 2006, 10:43:48 UTC
viz also Doctor in a nightclub with SAUCY SAILORS telling him he "needs a bit of cheering up"! Marv. I hope they reference that episode w. Captain Jack in Torchwood.

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freakytigger July 27 2006, 10:46:48 UTC
I have seen the surviving episode of Celestial Toymaker - it is dreadful.

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freakytigger July 27 2006, 10:52:30 UTC
To expand on this a bit - the reason I hated it is that it reminded me very much of a really badly refereed role-playing game.

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atommickbrane July 27 2006, 10:54:44 UTC
It was firmly within my comfort zone - people playing games, someone from Blue Peter and the Celestial Toymaker himself seemed a good yoke. There does appear to be a lot of RUB about his "godlike" status etc etc, why did he capture the Doc ANYWAY etc. And wasn't it just an excuse for Bill to go off on his hols? I think a similar thing happened in the Seeds of Death where Pat is "unconscious" for an episode or summat.

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the_roofdog July 27 2006, 11:23:37 UTC
i quite like celestial toymaker

Why is everyone voting for The Ark ?!?

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Some people have voted it best the_roofdog July 27 2006, 11:26:14 UTC
Is everyone confusing it with The Ark... IN SPACE ?!?

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Reasons The Ark Is Great freakytigger July 27 2006, 11:35:01 UTC
- space zoo with real actual elephant
- great two stories in one structure
- real grandeur in the destruction of earth scenes, helped by director framing spaceship bridge action like a classical tragedy
- episode 2 has one of the best cliffhangers of all time.
- both humans and Monoids are poor rulers so there's no obvious good/bad guy (or rather - the latterday Monoids ARE bad but still vaguely sympathetic)

Admittedly there are some weaknesses in execution but it's a strong, imaginative story.

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Re: Reasons The Ark Is Great jauntyalan July 27 2006, 12:03:24 UTC
it's the first time that a who story has ONE good idea in it.

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