2nd Candelabram - Phone

Nov 25, 2011 23:10

I see. Do things like this happen often? I suppose this place is as dangerous as people say, or sounds like it ( Read more... )

shit is going down, !mayfield, rebellion, !ic

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nothing_is_grey November 26 2011, 05:15:27 UTC
I do not. I will not allow them to drag me into their plots and plans and I will not be lured by anyone else. Everyone else is free to act as they see fit, and I will watch the choices they make. But I will not partake in what I shouldn't.

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devilwithananny November 26 2011, 05:18:56 UTC
From the sounds of it, you will not have a choice.

What then?

Will you simply sit and do nothing as you and others are forced through whatever game they have.

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nothing_is_grey November 26 2011, 05:24:02 UTC
I will sit and watch while others do as they will, only acting when I must. They have compromised my neutrality once, I will not let them do it again.

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devilwithananny November 26 2011, 05:28:52 UTC
A wasted position, to contribute to nothing.

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nothing_is_grey November 26 2011, 05:31:59 UTC
The proper position for one such as myself. It is not my role to influence or take a side.

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devilwithananny November 26 2011, 05:33:32 UTC
Then you have no position in the world at all. What a trivial existence.

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nothing_is_grey November 26 2011, 05:35:51 UTC
I have one of the most important, the role of judging everyone else at their end. One who judges others must not take a side. That is the only way to be fair, that is the only way to be neutral, that is the only way for true justice.

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devilwithananny November 26 2011, 05:39:04 UTC
[He laughs. The laughter of a young, amused child, giddy and non-judgmental.]

I see. And yet, in your judgment, you inherently do take a side. A judge is never neutral, despite their claims. All beings have a bias, even the neutral, and it is the neutral who most of all are the most biased in their perception of justice. The most unmovable.

And that betrays how unjust you are.

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nothing_is_grey November 26 2011, 05:42:47 UTC
I'm not sure what my bias would be, though I will admit to one. However that bias has never entered into my judgement and my rulings are always fair. As for unmovable, it is the role of those who judge the dead to not easily budge. A sinner should not be pardoned for one good deed, and a virtuous person should not be punished extensively for one sin.

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devilwithananny November 26 2011, 05:49:47 UTC
And so you betray your bias.

Who defines sin? Who defines virtue? You? A rule book? Politicians? Rulers? God?

That requires these sources to possess an objective authority, and none of them do. All their beliefs, all the weight they carry, are subjective and as meaningful and necessary as dust upon the ground.

No one may state for sure what any of those things are. May tell anyone, force anyone, into living their life a certain way.

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nothing_is_grey November 26 2011, 06:03:06 UTC
No, no one can force anyone into doing anything, which is why it is always their choice to do as they wish, be it right or wrong. As for the virtues? They are not the same for all, it depends on who is being judged. There is no such thing as blanket judgement, it must also consider the circumstances.

As for defining sin and virtue, that authority relies with the Ten Kings. Politicians are hardly the ones who should make such distinctions, neither are rulers or gods. Only those outside can make fair judgement.

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devilwithananny November 26 2011, 06:15:10 UTC
But if they are outside, then they are, by nature, incapable of making correct judgment since they have no true comprehension of those they are judging, do not experience as they do. They are the worst ones to be given such a role.

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nothing_is_grey November 26 2011, 06:39:40 UTC
They are the ones that run the system which everything else follows. And there is no need for true comprehension when everything is made of positive and negative. It's an organized system that is hard to fail.

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devilwithananny November 26 2011, 16:30:55 UTC
Yet again, you fail to give an acceptable answer. That they run the system does not mean they do so correctly, or have the authority to do so. You are blinded by your own beliefs, agent of Law.

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nothing_is_grey November 27 2011, 02:39:39 UTC
Who else should have such authority? Gods? The living? Mortals? How could they comprehend the balance that is needed for the wheel to continue to turn?

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devilwithananny November 27 2011, 04:58:00 UTC
Simple.

None should have such authority. Authority is a chain, holding back growth and progress. Balance is not necessary, but a facade perpetrated by Law.

Chaos is the natural state, and must overtake, overwhelm, the bonds that have been made.

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