I'm A Horrible Person

Oct 02, 2011 12:05

Ok, I swear I heard somewhere in 7.02 that the "best" way to torture someone is to make them believe they're somewhere else when they aren't. Clips I'm finding aren't bringing up anything but I swore I heard that, but even if I didn't other dialogue from the episode suggests this as more-or-less a truth of sorts.

SO, we learn that apparently that's the best way to torture someone. Awesome, related to Sam's hallucinations, your point is...? Except what if it's not JUST related to Sam's hallucinations.

I only just thought of this yesterday so some of it may not make sense but let me try to explain as coherently as I can.

The "best" way to torture someone, as far as we know, comes from Lucifer, who while being the Devil, he was still an Archangel once and thus even he is younger than Levi. Levi and his gang of misfit Leviathans lived in Purgatory for billions of years.

And from what we know of Purgatory, it's more-or-less an extension of Hell, which was why Crowley wanted it mostly in the first place. Because he already had Hell, so he was "entitled" to the extension of it as well. Now, one legend is that Leviathan is also known as Hell's gatekeeper. From what I can infer from the first two episodes, Supernatural is mainly focusing on the primordial sea monster aspects of the legend, but that doesn't stop them from mixing in other legends into their own representation. Just like they have for a lot of other monsters in this series.

SO, primordial sea monster or not, Levi and his family clearly have a connection of sorts to Hell that PREDATES Lucifer's fall. It's not beyond reasonable belief that Levi may know how to torture like Lucifer does, only to more extreme variations. Now just think of Sam's hallucinations but more extreme when you consider how much older Levi is compared to every other creature in existence. Now add to that their apparent ability to KNOW their host's memories and thoughts and feelings. Combine those two and you suddenly have a much, MUCH worse form of torture than Luci could ever devise.

Now let's consider those leaked script photos (again).

From reading what is legible, it can be inferred that as of when that episode was written, it's about something to do with Dean and Sam being put into their "Heavens" except they are not their actual Heavens and are in fact figments of their imagination, including any past loved ones that they see there (hence Sam seeing Jo and Ash in his). This was evidently done by Cas, as dialogue on a different page between Dean and Cas suggests to be true. Dean describes these kinds of hallucinations as "screwing with his head".

Now when those photos were originally leaked, it was assumed that this Cas was Godstiel. HOWEVER, in light of the premiere and the newest episode, this has been proven false and a second read-through of the photos gives off more a sense of Levi than Cas.

Levi, who has now been confirmed more-or-less to indeed have access to Castiel's memories. They ALL did, as that is the only way Doc!Levi could know Bobby's full name when he had never heard it spoken aloud before and recognized him instantly. Access to memories leads to access of thoughts and then feelings/emotions.

Levi is still in Cas and Cas is still in there, so imagine all that knowledge Levi is now in possession of. He knows everything the angel knew, including intricate details of Heaven.

Now let's consider that with the possibility that Levi knows more about torture than Lucifer. We may not know much about Levi's powers but based on evidence from the first two episodes, this is what we DO know: Levi can throw people around exactly how demons (and some angels, I think?) can, they can travel through ANY water source and get into their hosts from there by direct ingestion and they also never die--or easily, at least. After that they can morph their new bodies into the form of someone else, and then they consume the original. I assume (basing this on a general belief that's really fucking old) they do this mainly because they have to consume the person whose identity they have taken in order to KNOW them, so that they can be the person whose identity they took and match almost flawlessly. This is clearly different from just simply "feeding" as when they are hungry they just eat organs (as Doc!Levi disgustingly demonstrated).

Now, I really don't want to think of Levi eating Cas, but there is also the possibility that he didn't (cuz I still think he was lying about him being dead). The reason being the Levi is a special case. All the other Leviathans had to go get their own hosts the old-fashioned way. But Levi didn't have to. Levi was there since the moment the door was first opened. This makes me believe that Cas taking in the souls in the first place was the equivalent of Levi infecting him from a water source. AFAWK, them getting into humans/other beings via that method is no different than possession. It seems to start as possession and then turns into shapeshifter-esque impersonation.

However, them changing into other people could mean that they lose the knowledge of the people they were last impersonating, giving Levi a very perfect incentive for not changing bodies because really, WHAT BETTER BODY THAN AN ANGEL, EH? Which would mean that Levi is still in the possession stage of their gaining bodies, which means that Cas can still be in there as Levi never consumed his body. But just by being in it, he knows everything, just like Doc!Levi knew what his possession-body knew as well as Ed!Levi with his body.

So then, this means that Levi not only has access to all knowledge about the Winchesters and Heaven, but he has a weak, hopeless angel still in the body with him. Levi's powers, from what we have observed, are not unlike those of powerful demons--like Azazel and the angels in general. So whose to say he CAN'T, just like Azazel, waltz into someone's dream and change it to their will? What if he could do that, and not just do that, but force the people into a sort of catatonic state? Enter the premise of the episode those leaked photos are for.

Still with me? Ok. So on one of the pages, where Dean and Cas (Levi) are talking (or fighting, rather), Dean refers to the manipulation of his environment as "screwing with his head". Levi is clearly now using what he knows of Cas to PRETEND he is Cas, in every sense right down to every emotion he ever felt for Dean so he is very much fucking with Dean's mind by doing that.

But that's not all!

On a different page with more dialogue (it likely comes before the love confession) between them, Cas is ranting to Dean about "how come you don't want this?" (referring to whatever he manipulated Dean into believing he was in) and things of that general nature. It's all well and good and then he says this: "It's what I did for Him."

Specifically, the entire thing he says is: "You wouldn't be in pain anymore if you just accept it. I did the same for Him, and he's happy. Isn't that what you wanted?"

That line, right there, can't be Godstiel because who is he talking about? Can't be Jimmy cuz Jimmy died at the end of Season 4/5. The ONLY person in Cas' body that Dean would want to be "happy" is Cas himself. Leaving the only one he could be talking to as Levi masquerading Cas.

Now then, taking all of this into account, what if that was a lie? Just like how it is a lie that Cas is dead. What if, at this very moment in the series, Levi is forcing Cas into a catatonic state and making him THINK he's somewhere else. Could be anything. Could be an alternate reality (*cough*) where Dean actually acknowledges he loves him for all we know. The point is, what if he is torturing Cas just like how Lucifer is torturing Sam right now with thinking he's somewhere else when he is not.

And then later on, when this episode happens (whenever that may be), he yanks Cas out of that torture and straight into a new one: which is Levi using Cas to torture Dean with, and there isn't a damn thing Cas can do about it.

It would be the ultimate form of torture, yes? And Levi is sadistic enough to do it, too.

And I am enough of a horrible person that I would totally alter this oneshot I was writing to center around this new idea.

I am not sorry.





And if the above explanation didn't make sense...I'm sorry, XDD. I tried to explain it the best I could...I'm not the best at explaining things. So if anyone is confused and needs me to try clarifying something, ask~


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