Thoughts about the character changes from S1 to S2 with reference to Connor's techie skills

Feb 24, 2009 13:34


Recently I've been having some quite intersting discussions with Munchkinofdoom re the change between S1 and S2 with Connor, and the sudden appearance of his techie computer and engineering skills. Leaving aside how much you take canon at face value for the use of these skills (which myself and Munchkin do entirely disagree about), I've been ( Read more... )

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telperion_15 February 24 2009, 14:33:53 UTC
I think if they want to shuffle Connor back towards dino-geek in S3, there is still some precedence for doing that. I don't think that aspect of his character was completely absent in S2 - didn't Stephen and/or Cutter ask him about what they could expect to see in the Silurian in 2.05 (although admittedly he was wrong about the 'bug sized' bugs!)? So there's still some aspect of the dino database there ( ... )

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joereaves February 24 2009, 18:54:55 UTC
Plus while Cutter did know about the millipedes, it should be remembered that he *isn't* a palaeontologist. He's an evolutionary zoologist. His expertise shouldn't be confined to prehistoric creatures and because of that he shouldn't know everything there is to know about them. His specific area of expertise is evolution and specifically the things that don't fit Darwinian theories. Like that fish in the first ep.

So Connor's dinogeekiness isn't a direct duplication.

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deinonychus_1 February 24 2009, 19:29:52 UTC
it should be remembered that he *isn't* a palaeontologist. He's an evolutionary zoologist. His expertise shouldn't be confined to prehistoric creatures and because of that he shouldn't know everything there is to know about them. The trouble with that is that it doesn't fit with what we see on screen. To all intents and purposes, what Cutter comes across as onscreen *is* a palaeontologist. He has never yet misidentified a creature or time period. And just as a random question, what is the difference btween an 'evolutionary zoologist' and a 'palaeontologist'? I know a palaeontologist studies fossils of past animal life, so what's the actual distinction? I kind of always wished that they would jst call him a palaeontologist on the show and be done with it ( ... )

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joereaves February 24 2009, 19:39:48 UTC
Well a palaeontologist studies prehistoric life through the physical remains, kind of like an archaeologist studies human life through its remains. An evolutionary zoologist is a zoologist (ie someone who studies any animal life), but focussing on evolution, which depending on his specialism could be purely modern animals. A palaeontologist certainly wouldn't be on any kind of expedition where they'd be tracking panthers for example, but Nick has been. There would be some crossover between the two disciplines like there is between history and archaeology (although less crossover I would think since there isn't any history that can't utilise archaeology), but they're different.

Honestly Cutter shouldn't have the amount of knowledge he seems to. I would think his knowledge should be more general (ie it's a raptor of some kind rather than it's 'specific species of raptor'). It's slightly sloppy writing in always giving him the answers when they should come from Connor more often.

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deinonychus_1 February 24 2009, 19:48:26 UTC
To some extent Cutter does suffer from the Daniel Jackson effect - apparently knowing everything about every time period for whaever is relevant that week. It goes with the territory of being the star of the show, however unrealistic.

I think again this is why they moved Connor away from being just a Cutter clone, because in that situation there was no way that Connor could ever shine at anything with Cutter being who he is.

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deinonychus_1 February 24 2009, 19:01:10 UTC
I liked Connor the dino-geek as well! He always seemed to bouncy and enthusiastic about it. But I was thinking this afternoon after I posted this, and When you actually list the occasions when either Cutter or Connor have indentified creatures, Cutter always tends to be right, and Connor frequently turns out to be wrong, or at least only partly right. In 1.2 he ws right about the creature, but wrong about the 'mostly harmless' (although he did come up with the goods when he remembered they were burrowers and found the tunnel later). 2.5, as you say, there was the Silurian business, when he was wrong about the size of the bugs.

They certainly weren't in competition with each other, skill-wise, but I think it was simply a case that Connor needed something that was 'his' rather than just being a lesser version of Cutter. But he does do a decent job as backup for those occasions when Cutter isn't around.

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