Episode Review 2.3 - Telemon

Dec 02, 2014 22:31


Episode review time again! I may need to consider using less screencaps, because they take so long, and without so many pictures this could have been ready to post yesterday. But there was so much pretty in this episode, I couldn't stop with the screencaps!

Anyway, review behind the cut. Spoilers for the series so far, obviously.

episode 2.3 - Telemon )

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deinonychus_1 December 4 2014, 20:15:59 UTC
I really am quite worried that they have gone too far in the whole 'darker' tone, and got rid of so much of the heart of the show - the friendship between the three guys. Jason does seem to be pulling away from the others a little, but I really do think that is foreshadowing of later plot developments.

It would have been nice to see two honest-to-goodness nice guys both wanting to be with the Queen... I think that would have been more interesting then making Telemon a bad guy.

Yes, absolutely. Making him a bad guy is too easy and uncomplicated, both for the plot and for the audience. Having Ariadne make a genuine choice between two realistic alternatives is in many ways far more dramatic in terms of character/plot than a straight out fight between Jason and Telemon because Telemon turns out to be bad.

maybe that will lead into less of Jason being an asshat.

Oh, don't even get me started on Jsson's behaviour this series. He's been pissing me off pretty much ever since that "I have a destiny" speech in ep 1! Right now, if he carries on like this I'm actually *hoping* that one of the guys (probably Hercules) will just punch him in the face when he goes too far one day. Of course, if that ever does happen, then Jason will immediately take the moral high ground and be the one 'in the right', no matter how much of a dick he was being in the lead up to Hercules or Pythagoras standing up to him.

I *want* to like him, but right now the show is not making that easy. :-(

Re the secret, to be fair to both Hercules and Pythagoras, when each of them found out about who Jason was, their very first reaction was to tell Jason. It's only because of the Oracle's prophesy that it will all end badly if Jason knows the truth that they have agreed (unwillingly) to keep it secret.

I suppose from their point of view they live in a world where they have great respect and fear for the gods, and for people like the Oracle who have god-given abilities, so their reluctance to go against the Oracle's wishes is understandable. But I would like to see Hercules and Pythagoras discussing it between themselves a little more, and really arguing the options and the pros and cons of telling him or keeping it secret. At least that way, even if it does all go horribly wrong, we can see that they have genuinely made a decision based on what they believe to be the best course of action, rather than just because the Oracle told them to.

Oh, I think I've rambled as well now! But feel free to ramble away! I like it if these review posts generate a bit of discussion.

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honor_reid December 6 2014, 05:14:24 UTC
I suppose from their point of view they live in a world where they have great respect and fear for the gods, and for people like the Oracle who have god-given abilities, so their reluctance to go against the Oracle's wishes is understandable.

You have a point. It would be hard to go against someone who speaks for the gods.

I have been interested in what their religious structure is like because they have the Oracle but they also have priests and temples. (I have a plot bunny where Jason runs afoul of the religious heirarchy but I don't have enough info.)

Also something that totally has nothing to do with this post but whatever happened to Ariadne's brother? Couldn't he come back now? Or did I miss/forget something?

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deinonychus_1 December 6 2014, 12:00:42 UTC
whatever happened to Ariadne's brother? Couldn't he come back now?

Yes! I had exactly the same thought myself. He is older and male, and therefore a far more obvious choice to take the throne than Ariadne. Perhaps he has gone into hiding and can't be found so he doesn't know their father is dead?

The city has been made to believe that he tried to kill Minos, but now that everyone knows Pasiphae is the enemy, there is no reason why Ariadne couldn't bring her brother back and simply make sure that everyone who matters understands that he was set up by Pasiphae and it was all lies. The people might take a while to come round, but it's not like they really get a say in who is king anyway.

I suspect the writers will conveniently forget that he exists, though, because it suits their plot to have Ariadne as queen.

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