Feeling guilty about being disinterested in or disliking Rowling's female characters

Jan 27, 2019 15:48

The title is self-explanatory. After rereading HP, I realized how let down I was about the dearth of interesting and/or likable female characters. As someone who has a long list of favorite female characters from various books, movies, TV shows, and video games, the women in the Harry Potter books leave me cold or bored ( Read more... )

sexism, female characters, male characters, characterization, gender, criticism

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torchedsong February 1 2019, 22:41:20 UTC
Petunia is treated with more relevance than Vernon, and I've noticed the fandom is also slightly kinder to Petunia opposed to Vernon. Having Harry's mother as a sister privileges Petunia's character to a certain extent.

I completely agree with the disappointment over not getting more about Hermione's parents and the missed opportunities for Harry and Hermione to bond in a unique way. I also think that JKR didn't want to waste time on "boring" normal Muggles. For all the vicious prejudice against Muggles and Muggleborns in the Wizarding World, it seems like JKR doesn't have much interest in humanizing non-magical people or showing the harsh reality of discrimination/racism affecting Hermione and Harry.

And as a side-note: it kind of bothers me how the few confirmed Slytherin half-blood characters are characterized as evil or morally ambiguous. Snape, Voldemort, and Umbridge are half-bloods and yet their half-blood status is not called in question with their involvement (or association) in a pure-blood supremacist group? I know JKR was going for the message that even those who are discriminated against seek superiority and power over others, no matter how hypocritical. Nonetheless, it's another example to me how JKR wanted to write about serious themes (racism, fascism, etc) but didn't cultivate it well enough in the overall world she created.

As for the commentary on appearance: I think it's a case of JKR's own opinions on looks seeping through Harry's POV. At least, that's the vibe I get at times. As chantaldormand mentioned above, male characters receive more elaborate descriptions about their attire and presentation. Rereading the series, I did get the sense that men have their body language, faces, and eyes given more attention and detail, regardless whether it's complimentary, unflattering, or neutral.

I also think this goes back to JKR being more approving of the "right" kind of femininity for women, since the female characters that are often described favorably are neither too girly or too masculine in appearance and behavior. That's what makes Ginny so appealing in Harry's eyes: she's feminine enough to be extremely pretty and supportive, but not too girly because she's sporty, tough, and fierce. Harry's "chest monster" for Ginny sounded more like what JKR thought a straight teenage boy would think rather than what an actual straight teenage boy would think, if that makes sense.

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Re: Umbridge jana_ch February 2 2019, 05:10:58 UTC
I don't care what JKR says in interviews and websites: Umbridge is obviously an example of the dark side of Hufflepuff. It shows a decided lack of imagination for every evil character to be a Slytherin whose principal evil characteristic is blood prejudice. *snarl*grumble*rant*

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Re: Umbridge torchedsong February 2 2019, 10:32:35 UTC
I'm with you there. I can see Umbridge being the dark representative of Hufflepuff. A person can be hard-working, diligent, dedicated, patient, and loyal - and still commit terrible and atrocious acts. A Hufflepuff can have their own vision of what's "fair" and be faithful to all the wrong sorts of values. It would've been a great way to represent how each house in Hogwarts has a sinister side, and how cruel people come from every background.

But nope. Umbridge is evil, racist, and irredeemable - so let's make her a Slytherin! Obviously.

And better yet, let's have another example of an unscrupulous Slytherin half-blood, because... why not? It's not only Slytherin pure-bloods who are prejudiced and racist, even those Slytherin half-bloods are infected with poisonous ideals!

I'm shocked JKR didn't take it a step further and had racist Slytherin muggleborns just to twist the "All Slytherins are Horrible" knife further in.

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Re: Umbridge jana_ch February 2 2019, 22:22:52 UTC
Not only that, Umbridge in Book Five gives no indication that she is a blood bigot in the sense that she looks down on muggleborns, or even muggles. She does not object to non-wizard blood; she objects to non-human blood. As far as we know, her position on the Muggleborn Registration Committee in Book Seven is just a bureaucratic post. It’s her job to suppress muggleborns, and as a loyal bureaucrat she is conscientiously doing her job. When she’s on her own, it’s non-human sapients-giants and centaurs-that she finds objectionable.

It’s sad how Rowling has gone out of her way to simplify her universe. All Slytherins are evil and all evil people are Slytherins. All prejudice is anti-muggleborn bigotry, and all bigotry is anti-muggleborn. And this is happening in a culture that views actual muggles as amusing or dangerous animals, and is right to do so.

Thank God for meta and fan fiction. Most of it is trash (Sturgeon’s Law!), but occasionally one finds a fan analyst or author who can really open up this cosmos and make it into something that is still fascinating decades later.

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Re: Umbridge torchedsong February 3 2019, 03:51:08 UTC
Umbridge's utmost loyalty and dedication to what she deems to be right and fair would've made her a formidable and frightening Hufflepuff. I don't recall if she outright voiced racism against muggleborns, but she did enjoy her position of power in the Ministry. Her racism was more pronounced towards non-human beings. And she wasn't a Death Eater, although she supported Voldemort's regime.

On the other hand, JKR did write on Pottermore an article about Umbridge and claimed Umbridge despised her mother for her Muggle background and her Squib brother. So there's that, although I'm not sure if Pottermore counts as canon or not, even if JKR writes some of the articles herself.

I agree on how sad it is to paint nearly all Slytherins with the same shadowy brush. Before the last book came out, I thought JKR would do a role reversal with the Gryffindors and Slytherins and show how both houses have their faults - and how both need to reconcile and cooperate with one another to take Voldemort down. I thought at least one Slytherin character would be redeemed and Harry would have to work with a Slytherin adversary (Snape or Draco) to win the war. But... it didn't happen. Harry remained the same, the Gryffindors remained morally righteous, and the Slytherins remained morally dubious at best and evil at worst. The "reveal" of Dumbledore being morally ambiguous wasn't a big deal because he remained a favorable mentor figure who did everything for Good's sake.

And yes, Rowling herself has no interest in writing or portraying muggles in the HP universe. She regards them as boring as well. As mentioned above, we learn barely anything about Hermione's parents, and Harry and Hermione don't get to bond over their shared muggle background.

Sorry for the rant, but the disappointment still stings to this day. I'm thankful for fan fiction, meta, and discussions as well. It's why I got back into the HP fandom in the first place.

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