/he isn’t curious about society he just have joined/
Or his parents. He only learns about his parents when other people take it upon themselves to tell him (ex. Minerva about James). He never actively goes out and asks anyone about what his parents were like.
/his characterisation is all over the place/
It seems that other writers seem to unconsciously recognize this, because when I've read other books that use Harry as an example for a character archetype that they're discussing, I've seen him classified as anywhere from a dreamer to a nerd. Which, if you read the books and look at Harry's thoughts, isn't really true. Luna is the dreamy type, not Harry. Harry isn't really a 'dreamer.' He's not really a nerd either, because the only thing that he really takes a keen interest in is Quidditch. Hermione is much closer to the nerd archetype than Harry is. But Harry looks like a stereotypical nerd (skinny, has glasses and messy hair), so maybe that's why he's often categorized as one.
/Harry doesn’t enjoy playing chess and plays quidditch only for ego boost so I have no idea what those 2 talk about when there is no nefarious plots for Harry’s life/
Well, Ron and Harry did talk about Quidditch teams on the Hogwarts Express, so that is still one thing that they have in common. And when Ron and Harry have their falling-out in GOF, Harry thinks that there's a "lot less laughter" without Ron around. But, yes, Harry really doesn't have a lot in common with Hermione. The one thing that they could have bonded over (their Muggle background and unfamiliarity with the wizarding world) is never touched upon because JKR wanted to write about the wizards and not Muggles.
/He doesn’t try to learn their birthdays, doesn’t get them anything for Christmas/
One excuse in CoS is that Ron and his family are too proud to take Harry's money (but not the Weasley twins in GoF). Harry does buy Ron ice cream when they're in Diagon Alley together (while also buying ice cream for himself). But, yes, I have a feeling that the reason why Harry doesn't know that much about Ron and Hermione is because JKR wasn't interested in that information. After seven books, Harry and the reader still have no idea what the first names of Hermione's parents are. Harry has never been to Hermione's house and hardly knows anything about what Hermione's life was like before she went to Hogwarts.
/he doesn’t try to do anything for them/
And yet one of the things that's supposed to differentiate him from Voldemort is that he has friends and Voldemort doesn't.
/Well, Ron and Harry did talk about Quidditch teams on the Hogwarts Express, so that is still one thing that they have in common./
I have to disagree here. Talking usually involves two (or more) parties verbally exchanging ideas/opinions/etc. The way Jo describes it, it looks like Ron was talking at Harry, while our hero was either just nodding or sat there and looked pretty. It's even more visible when a few chapters later Wood explains how Quidditch works and at no point Harry goes "I know! And catching that golden ball earns 150 points, doesn't it?" I mean I can sit with my friend and listen to him getting nerdy over Nietzsche, but I wouldn't say that we have that in common :)
/And when Ron and Harry have their falling-out in GOF, Harry thinks that there's a "lot less laughter" without Ron around./
And I'm not surprised that there was "lot less laughter" during that time, since annual Ostracising Potter Campaign started around that time. Slytherins producing the badges, Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs hiding useful books and giving evil eye our protag, heck even Griffindors pressured Harry by nagging him about the way he was entered into the Tournament.
/One excuse in CoS is that Ron and his family are too proud to take Harry's money (but not the Weasley twins in GoF). /
That excuse is BS since Molly send him care package. The least he could do is send Molly thank you card. And giving gift isn't the same as giving money to someone poor. Just buying Ron a package of chocolate frogs would make Harry look like a good friend.
/he isn’t curious about society he just have joined/
Or his parents. He only learns about his parents when other people take it upon themselves to tell him (ex. Minerva about James). He never actively goes out and asks anyone about what his parents were like
When Hermione tells him she read all about him he doesn't bother to look and see what the books say about him.
Or his parents. He only learns about his parents when other people take it upon themselves to tell him (ex. Minerva about James). He never actively goes out and asks anyone about what his parents were like.
/his characterisation is all over the place/
It seems that other writers seem to unconsciously recognize this, because when I've read other books that use Harry as an example for a character archetype that they're discussing, I've seen him classified as anywhere from a dreamer to a nerd. Which, if you read the books and look at Harry's thoughts, isn't really true. Luna is the dreamy type, not Harry. Harry isn't really a 'dreamer.' He's not really a nerd either, because the only thing that he really takes a keen interest in is Quidditch. Hermione is much closer to the nerd archetype than Harry is. But Harry looks like a stereotypical nerd (skinny, has glasses and messy hair), so maybe that's why he's often categorized as one.
/Harry doesn’t enjoy playing chess and plays quidditch only for ego boost so I have no idea what those 2 talk about when there is no nefarious plots for Harry’s life/
Well, Ron and Harry did talk about Quidditch teams on the Hogwarts Express, so that is still one thing that they have in common. And when Ron and Harry have their falling-out in GOF, Harry thinks that there's a "lot less laughter" without Ron around. But, yes, Harry really doesn't have a lot in common with Hermione. The one thing that they could have bonded over (their Muggle background and unfamiliarity with the wizarding world) is never touched upon because JKR wanted to write about the wizards and not Muggles.
/He doesn’t try to learn their birthdays, doesn’t get them anything for Christmas/
One excuse in CoS is that Ron and his family are too proud to take Harry's money (but not the Weasley twins in GoF). Harry does buy Ron ice cream when they're in Diagon Alley together (while also buying ice cream for himself). But, yes, I have a feeling that the reason why Harry doesn't know that much about Ron and Hermione is because JKR wasn't interested in that information. After seven books, Harry and the reader still have no idea what the first names of Hermione's parents are. Harry has never been to Hermione's house and hardly knows anything about what Hermione's life was like before she went to Hogwarts.
/he doesn’t try to do anything for them/
And yet one of the things that's supposed to differentiate him from Voldemort is that he has friends and Voldemort doesn't.
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I have to disagree here. Talking usually involves two (or more) parties verbally exchanging ideas/opinions/etc. The way Jo describes it, it looks like Ron was talking at Harry, while our hero was either just nodding or sat there and looked pretty. It's even more visible when a few chapters later Wood explains how Quidditch works and at no point Harry goes "I know! And catching that golden ball earns 150 points, doesn't it?"
I mean I can sit with my friend and listen to him getting nerdy over Nietzsche, but I wouldn't say that we have that in common :)
/And when Ron and Harry have their falling-out in GOF, Harry thinks that there's a "lot less laughter" without Ron around./
And I'm not surprised that there was "lot less laughter" during that time, since annual Ostracising Potter Campaign started around that time. Slytherins producing the badges, Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs hiding useful books and giving evil eye our protag, heck even Griffindors pressured Harry by nagging him about the way he was entered into the Tournament.
/One excuse in CoS is that Ron and his family are too proud to take Harry's money (but not the Weasley twins in GoF). /
That excuse is BS since Molly send him care package. The least he could do is send Molly thank you card.
And giving gift isn't the same as giving money to someone poor. Just buying Ron a package of chocolate frogs would make Harry look like a good friend.
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Or his parents. He only learns about his parents when other people take it upon themselves to tell him (ex. Minerva about James). He never actively goes out and asks anyone about what his parents were like
When Hermione tells him she read all about him he doesn't bother to look and see what the books say about him.
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