/there are still people both in books and fandom that think you are a “fair but strict” teacher/
I think that this is the reason, though: yes, she gives Harry a broom for free, but she takes a ridiculously large amount of points from her own House in this scene.
/why the heck she sends kids into forest?/
The only rationale that makes some kind of sense is the idea of ironic punishment. I think that something like this happened in an episode of "Hey Arnold": one of the characters stole meat from the butcher because he was hungry, so he was forced to work for the butcher as punishment.
/“never been more ashamed of Gryffindor students”. I don’t know about you guys, but to me student trying to feed another student to werewolf would be more deserving of this title/
Even if we assume that JKR didn't plan the Marauders by this point, what about the Weasley twins? Did Minerva conveniently forget about those 'lovable' troublemakers who enjoy breaking rules?
/the first Ostracising Harry Potter Campaign had begun/
Even when I first read this part, I couldn't believe how petty and childish Gryffindor House was being. Did Slytherin House treat Draco like this when they heard about how many points he'd lost for them? I don't get how JKR could not realize how bad this makes Gryffindors look. And notice that we don't get this same reaction when Harry's suspected of entering his name into the Goblet of Fire or when he nearly kills Draco.
/Why the heck Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs are angry at Harry? If I was one of them I would be happy that my House has a shot at House Cup/
The same reason why Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff don't grow to resent Gryffindor like they resented Slytherin for winning the Quidditch Cup all those years in a row. Slytherin is evil incarnate, so it's only natural for Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff to root for Gryffindor, the only 'true' competitor to Slytherin, to win.
/It’s especially hypocritical of the Twins to give Harry cold shoulder/
Why does nobody point out that the Twins are the last people who should be angry at Harry and Ron? And the way that the rest of the Quidditch team calls Harry "the Seeker" instead of his name is so melodramatic, childish, and ridiculous.
/I don’t know Wood, how about studying and earning points back through academics? Hermione did quite good job of it in the beginning of the year/
But according to Hermione, it's not about books and cleverness. It's about more important things, like friendship and bravery and...sports.
/Neville doesn’t suddenly become worthy of our hero’s time/
Really, the treatment of Neville is similar to that of Mrs. Figg. You would think that a lonely little boy like Harry would be happy for any kind of affection from someone, but he's just as judgmental of those two as everyone else is. He criticizes Mrs. Figg for having a smelly house and too many cats, as I'm sure the Dursleys did, and he criticizes Neville because he's an uncool dweeb...even though on Privet Drive, *Harry* was the uncool dweeb.
/dethroning Albus in CoS was part of pay back/
Well, and sending Hagrid to Azkaban.
/Harry gets to experience life threatening situation with Draco. Do they become friends? Nope!/
One reason you could posit for why Hermione gets to be Harry's friend, but Draco doesn't is because everyone sees it as Draco's fault that they're in trouble. He told on them, and that's why they're being punished. Just...ignore the fact that it was Hagrid who had the illegal dragon, Hagrid who expected the kids to cover up for him, and Hagrid who now has the gall to supervise their detention without saying a word to defend them. And somehow none of the kids are angry at him for this.
/I would like to note that there is no mention of Hagrid looking for, or finding Draco. Nor does our hero wonder what happened to his rival./
Or to Neville. In the movie, they fix this by substituting Ron for Neville, and both Ron and Draco arrive with Hagrid and Hermione after Harry talks to Firenze.
/The only rationale that makes some kind of sense is the idea of ironic punishment. I think that something like this happened in an episode of "Hey Arnold": one of the characters stole meat from the butcher because he was hungry, so he was forced to work for the butcher as punishment. /
I would agree, if the punishment would be more reasonable like forcing kids to accompany teachers in patrolling Hogwarts. It would be both dull and teach them something while not being insanely dangerous.
/Why does nobody point out that the Twins are the last people who should be angry at Harry and Ron? /
I suppose it might be because Harry got caught while breaking rules, but Ron points out that twins can easily lose 150 points during a school year so it still doesn't make sense.
/Just...ignore the fact that it was Hagrid who had the illegal dragon, Hagrid who expected the kids to cover up for him, and Hagrid who now has the gall to supervise their detention without saying a word to defend them. And somehow none of the kids are angry at him for this/
Jo likes her cakes so much that she wants to both eat and keep them :P
/Or to Neville. In the movie, they fix this by substituting Ron for Neville, and both Ron and Draco arrive with Hagrid and Hermione after Harry talks to Firenze./
Darn I missed it. Poor Neville, even I missed him :(
I think that this is the reason, though: yes, she gives Harry a broom for free, but she takes a ridiculously large amount of points from her own House in this scene.
/why the heck she sends kids into forest?/
The only rationale that makes some kind of sense is the idea of ironic punishment. I think that something like this happened in an episode of "Hey Arnold": one of the characters stole meat from the butcher because he was hungry, so he was forced to work for the butcher as punishment.
/“never been more ashamed of Gryffindor students”. I don’t know about you guys, but to me student trying to feed another student to werewolf would be more deserving of this title/
Even if we assume that JKR didn't plan the Marauders by this point, what about the Weasley twins? Did Minerva conveniently forget about those 'lovable' troublemakers who enjoy breaking rules?
/the first Ostracising Harry Potter Campaign had begun/
Even when I first read this part, I couldn't believe how petty and childish Gryffindor House was being. Did Slytherin House treat Draco like this when they heard about how many points he'd lost for them? I don't get how JKR could not realize how bad this makes Gryffindors look. And notice that we don't get this same reaction when Harry's suspected of entering his name into the Goblet of Fire or when he nearly kills Draco.
/Why the heck Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs are angry at Harry? If I was one of them I would be happy that my House has a shot at House Cup/
The same reason why Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff don't grow to resent Gryffindor like they resented Slytherin for winning the Quidditch Cup all those years in a row. Slytherin is evil incarnate, so it's only natural for Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff to root for Gryffindor, the only 'true' competitor to Slytherin, to win.
/It’s especially hypocritical of the Twins to give Harry cold shoulder/
Why does nobody point out that the Twins are the last people who should be angry at Harry and Ron? And the way that the rest of the Quidditch team calls Harry "the Seeker" instead of his name is so melodramatic, childish, and ridiculous.
/I don’t know Wood, how about studying and earning points back through academics? Hermione did quite good job of it in the beginning of the year/
But according to Hermione, it's not about books and cleverness. It's about more important things, like friendship and bravery and...sports.
/Neville doesn’t suddenly become worthy of our hero’s time/
Really, the treatment of Neville is similar to that of Mrs. Figg. You would think that a lonely little boy like Harry would be happy for any kind of affection from someone, but he's just as judgmental of those two as everyone else is. He criticizes Mrs. Figg for having a smelly house and too many cats, as I'm sure the Dursleys did, and he criticizes Neville because he's an uncool dweeb...even though on Privet Drive, *Harry* was the uncool dweeb.
/dethroning Albus in CoS was part of pay back/
Well, and sending Hagrid to Azkaban.
/Harry gets to experience life threatening situation with Draco. Do they become friends? Nope!/
One reason you could posit for why Hermione gets to be Harry's friend, but Draco doesn't is because everyone sees it as Draco's fault that they're in trouble. He told on them, and that's why they're being punished. Just...ignore the fact that it was Hagrid who had the illegal dragon, Hagrid who expected the kids to cover up for him, and Hagrid who now has the gall to supervise their detention without saying a word to defend them. And somehow none of the kids are angry at him for this.
/I would like to note that there is no mention of Hagrid looking for, or finding Draco. Nor does our hero wonder what happened to his rival./
Or to Neville. In the movie, they fix this by substituting Ron for Neville, and both Ron and Draco arrive with Hagrid and Hermione after Harry talks to Firenze.
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I would agree, if the punishment would be more reasonable like forcing kids to accompany teachers in patrolling Hogwarts. It would be both dull and teach them something while not being insanely dangerous.
/Why does nobody point out that the Twins are the last people who should be angry at Harry and Ron? /
I suppose it might be because Harry got caught while breaking rules, but Ron points out that twins can easily lose 150 points during a school year so it still doesn't make sense.
/Just...ignore the fact that it was Hagrid who had the illegal dragon, Hagrid who expected the kids to cover up for him, and Hagrid who now has the gall to supervise their detention without saying a word to defend them. And somehow none of the kids are angry at him for this/
Jo likes her cakes so much that she wants to both eat and keep them :P
/Or to Neville. In the movie, they fix this by substituting Ron for Neville, and both Ron and Draco arrive with Hagrid and Hermione after Harry talks to Firenze./
Darn I missed it. Poor Neville, even I missed him :(
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