Harry Potter & the Cursed Child

Jun 09, 2016 20:58

For anyone who's curious, the plot of the play has been discussed in spoilery comments at the following links:

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Source 3 UPDATE: Snitchseeker took down their spoilers as JKR called out another website for doing the same and TPTB have been contacting people to request they don't post any details. *eyeroll ( Read more... )

hogwarts houses, cursed child, plot holes, criticism

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dracasadiablo June 9 2016, 12:38:26 UTC
Wtf ( ... )

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borg_princess June 9 2016, 13:08:34 UTC
omg, I was so caught up in the moment over R/Hr being torpedoed (for now, this is only Part 1) that I didn't fully grasp exactly how thoroughly, if unintentionally, JKR just crucified the ship. Because YES, as you say, it is entirely based on jealousy. WOW. That's pretty harsh treatment for the endgame pairing from its own creator!

I mean, anti-R/Hr folks have been pointing out for years that their relationship is toxic and unhealthy and we never see them actually enjoy each other's company, but that really takes the cake.

are we to think that nobody ever asked Hermione out? So Ron never got to be jealous about it?I'm guessing that once the Yule Ball with Padma was a success, he only had eyes for her after they started dating and so didn't care what Hermione was up to. She probably then threw herself at Cormac, but it was too late to get Ron's attention once he was in a supportive, loving relationship, and that's what drove her to spend her life ~alone forever ( ... )

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aikaterini June 9 2016, 18:46:38 UTC
/She probably then threw herself at Cormac, but it was too late to get Ron's attention once he was in a supportive, loving relationship, and that's what drove her to spend her life ~alone forever ( ... )

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madderbrad June 10 2016, 06:05:42 UTC
I didn't fully grasp exactly how thoroughly, if unintentionally, JKR just crucified the ship.

I can't see Rowling admitting that her books are anything less than perfect, so I'm sure Part II will be occupied with restoring the timeline and her previous primary pairings.

Although if Part 1 was spent in analysing how bad canon's H/G and R/Hr are it sounds like there'll be lots of material - Rowling's own findings - to use as ammunition on the shipping front?!

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josephinestone June 9 2016, 15:55:52 UTC
Until I read these spoilers I didn't even consider Rose/Scorpius being a thing, but now I'm like: duh, she hinted at it in the epilogue. And as much as I love Albus and Scorpius being friend, I don't think I could stomach any Rose/Scorpius.

Also, yeah. This sounds like really bad fan fiction. They should have spent a few months reading all the good fan fiction before they tried this.

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borg_princess June 10 2016, 01:05:19 UTC
Rose/Scorpius is pretty popular in fandom - but not as popular as Albus/Scorpius! :P Apparently they're 'lowkey gay' in the play, haha, so there's equal opportunity fuel for shippers.

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elanor_x June 9 2016, 20:37:32 UTC
Since I almost never liked time-travel fanfic, I was disappointed to hear it's such a central point in the new book.

Also, I was shocked to see Draco claiming "do you know who else had no one Harry?! VOLDEMORT DID AND SO DID I GROWING UP!"

Wasn't Narcissa's love for him crucial in HBP and DH, leading her to betray Voldemort and save Harry's life? She begged Snape to save Draco's life too.

\\ there's a rumor that Scorp is Voldy's son

Completely ridiculous. Scorp was born long after V's death and for all 7 HP books, we have never seen wizards having easy access to Time-Turners or explaining any mystery by linking it to time travel.

Also, Voldemort, as we've seen him, would be much more likely to kill Astoria rather than sleep with her, being an asexual representation of evil. Being uninterested in children suits V for another reason too: since he wishes for immortality, he has no need for heirs.

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borg_princess June 10 2016, 01:01:05 UTC
JKR shows time and time again she has zero respect for her own bloody canon, lol.

The Malfoys are a tight-knit family, they love each other, that's a key point as you say! At the very least, NARCISSA's love for Draco is beyond refute.

The Voldemort thing is being taken out of context, I believe. From what I gather, it's just what's rumored at school, kids being the mean bullies they are. As Draco's son and a Slytherin, that's the sort of nonsense they WOULD come up with. :/

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dracasadiablo June 15 2016, 16:14:59 UTC
Still, the rumor really doesn't speak well of "All it's well" WW.
Without any wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff; Astoria was 16 years old when Voldy was finally destroyed. So, speaking only about the age difference and not just about Voldy being well Voldy; it's still extremely squick-y.
The fact that kids in WW are so willing to believe it troubling.

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nx74defiant June 20 2016, 22:51:27 UTC
Over a long series it isn't surprising to see contradictions. But it should be small details - not MAJOR PLOT POINTS!

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vermouth1991 June 10 2016, 00:54:06 UTC
Laventadorn (on FF dot net and AO3) has finished the first part (Year Two to Year Four) of her AU girl!Harry fic called "The Never-ending Road". Go read that instead.

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borg_princess June 10 2016, 00:55:25 UTC
I loooove that fic so damn much, I don't have the words ♥

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vermouth1991 June 13 2016, 05:34:31 UTC
Then let's just spread the word so that more people here can go read her work. 😍

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borg_princess June 13 2016, 05:37:43 UTC
I also recommend Hogwarts Houses Divided. That's what the play should've ripped off, if JKR & co were going to trawl ff.net for inspiration. So much great commentary on the biased house system and the prejudices of the Wizarding World. ♥

ps. it's a gen-fic set in Teddy Lupin's Hogwarts years.

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jana_ch June 10 2016, 05:04:21 UTC
I’ll explain in two words: Bad fanfic. Honestly, I wouldn’t read this story if I found it on fanfic-dot-net.

A niece named Delphinus? Are we talking about a female-to-male transsexual who has changed hir name from Delphina or Delphinina to fit hir self-identified sex? Or a male-to-female transsexual who has not bothered to change hir original name? I know wizarding Latin is bad, but I didn’t think it was so bad as to screw up the simplest point of grammatical gender.

Ron married Padma because you can’t marry anyone you didn’t have a date with in high school. And Hermione is teaching Defense because it was always her weakest subject.

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madderbrad June 10 2016, 06:06:39 UTC
Ron married Padma because you can’t marry anyone you didn’t have a date with in high school.

Hee. giggle-out-loud. Rowling's HP is so simplistic in some ways, isn't it? And continues to be so.

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oryx_leucoryx June 10 2016, 17:17:01 UTC
I'm pretty sure Tonks didn't date Remus in high school, but then they are both dead.

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snapes_witch June 12 2016, 02:28:14 UTC
No, because she's younger and they probably weren't even in school at the same time.

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