PS Chapter Four: "The Keeper of the Keys"

Nov 18, 2015 22:44

* I remember how in the good old days before DH came out this chapter title spurred much interesting speculation regarding potential Hagrid-St. Peter parallels.

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chapter commentary: ps/ss, dursleys, author: for_diddled, chapter commentary, hagrid, wizard/muggle relations

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Nicer people hwyla November 19 2015, 01:19:56 UTC
Are you sure Hagrid said James and Lily were 'nice'? I seem to remember it as Hagrid saying they were 'good' - which does not equal 'nice'. I only recall it because I remember arguing that 'good' could mean talented as opposed to actually non-evil or even just nice ( ... )

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Re: Nicer people for_diddled November 19 2015, 12:10:34 UTC
Are you sure Hagrid said James and Lily were 'nice'? I seem to remember it as Hagrid saying they were 'good' - which does not equal 'nice'. I only recall it because I remember arguing that 'good' could mean talented as opposed to actually non-evil or even just nice.

He says both: on p. 45 of the 1997 Bloomsbury edition, Hagrid says "Now, yer mum an' dad were as good a witch an' wizard as I ever knew. Head Boy an' Girl at Hogwarts in their day! Suppose the myst'ry is why You-Know-Who never tried to get 'em on his side before..." And a couple of paragraphs later, after getting out a handkerchief and blowing his nose: "Sorry. But it's that sad -- knew yer mum an' dad, an' nicer people yeh couldn't find."

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Re: Nicer people hwyla November 19 2015, 16:58:56 UTC
Thanks! Apparently, I've had it wrong all along!

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RE: Re: Nicer people nx74defiant November 23 2015, 12:11:45 UTC
Hagrid also thinks Aragon is nice.

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Re: Nicer people hwyla November 23 2015, 16:13:24 UTC
*snicker* Aragon IS nice (even if the hobbits were a bit scared of him at first) - it's Aragog that you have to worry about!

Really, I hadn't really thought how close the names were - an easy mistake - altho' I don't think it was necessarily 'meant' that way. It's probably a combo of Ara (spider) + og (famous giant). However, the similarity of the name with Aragon does bring up questions of Aragog vs. Shelob

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Re: Nicer people nx74defiant November 24 2015, 00:45:30 UTC
Oppps - I tend to get mixed up with names and spelling.

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Re: Nicer people mary_j_59 November 24 2015, 05:30:31 UTC
Well, actually, it's Aragorn, not Aragon. OTOH, it's Eragon! Yes, easy to get mixed up. ;)

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Re: Nicer people hwyla November 24 2015, 11:26:26 UTC
And now it's MY oops! So is the poor man a ranger/dragonrider/king or a ranger/shelob/king? At least with Eragon, he's all human. I wonder what it is that makes that combo of sounds so 'fantasy-name' appropriate?

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Re: Nicer people for_diddled November 24 2015, 22:21:41 UTC
To be fair, Aragon is probably quite nice as well: Mediterranean climate, long and varied history...

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