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mmmarcusz April 2 2010, 18:51:18 UTC
Btw, I saw a still from DH where Hermione's in her Muggle room. It makes me nervous they might actually include the mindwipe.

Given that the movies tend to edit out the characters' more abhorrent behaviour, I can see them leaving the wipe out and just helping her parents to hide.

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jodel_from_aol April 2 2010, 19:55:08 UTC
Or showing the paternts *agreeing* to the mind wipe.

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mksolomon April 2 2010, 23:11:08 UTC
Do we know from canon that Hermione's parents *did not* agree to the mind-wipe? Perhaps they did.

Wishful thinking on my part?

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jodel_from_aol April 3 2010, 03:02:52 UTC
We know nothing of the matter whatsoever. But considering all the bad reaction (which has not been silent) to that faux pas, I'm sure that Rowling would back-pedal and assure us that it was concentual is anyone asked her now (and she even remembered it. That's questionable. But then if I'd written DHs I'd have forgotten as much of it as possible by now, too.)

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madderbrad April 3 2010, 01:14:34 UTC
I'd like to believe that they agreed to it, but I can't see why they would? If you agreed to abrogate all responsibility for your daughter and abandon her, adopting new identities, why the mind wipe? Losing everything you are just to help the act? Surely one would say "please don't kill me, I'll be able to act the part satisfactorily"?

I've never been able to paint Hermione's act here as consistent with her parents giving full consent to what she did. She knew they'd try and stop her from joining Harry - or otherwise be in danger (by their either trying to protect her, impede her, or just from being high-profile muggles associated with Harry Potter) and so she did the 'wipe as part of her unilateral action to get rid of them and the problem. :-(

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wolf_willow31 April 5 2010, 01:14:55 UTC
It's impossible to imagine that Hermione's parents would agree to it.

They'd have to sell (or abandon) their dentistry practice and their house. They'd have to arrange to immigrate to Australia (I'm sure that takes a while). I'm sure they wouldn't automatically be licenced to practice dentistry in Australia, either.

They'd have to leave all their family and friends, who would think they were nuts, particularly when they started insisting that they didn't have a daughter.

It's also impossible to imagine that they'd ever speak to their daughter again.

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oryx_leucoryx April 5 2010, 01:36:10 UTC
I wonder how far they could have 'realistically' managed to get the plan to immigrate that only popped in their minds sometime in June or July. Even if Hermione equipped them with fake documents with Confundus Charms on them so that people looking at them would be convinced in their authenticity. Rowling makes it sound too easy.

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oryx_leucoryx April 2 2010, 20:11:05 UTC
Makes me wonder what will become of the 'gallant' Cruciatus. Yes, the movies constantly whitewash the kids, as well as Dumbledore. I bet Lily will turn out completely saintly too. (And since the werewolf debacle does not exist in movie canon, Sirius has been whitewashed already too.)

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lissa2 April 2 2010, 21:56:33 UTC
"Makes me wonder what will become of the 'gallant' Cruciatus"
And the Suicide cheerleading sqaud...I'm dying to see how the two DH films are going to deal with the controversial aspects of the book.

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sweettalkeress July 14 2010, 20:16:12 UTC
That's actually funny. The movies which all the die-hard fans of the books complain are OH SO INFERIOR to the original text and OMG NOT THE TRUE CANON!!! as far as they're concerned actually appear to be sticking closer to Rowling's vision of the characters' morality.

Except Snape's a gray area. He's evidently meaner in some places and nicer in others than he appears in the book.

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oryx_leucoryx July 30 2010, 17:02:49 UTC
Well, ultimately this is because Steve Kloves seems to have a better sense of what behavior is morally acceptable and what isn't than Rowling. Or at least a better sense that a person's moral standing depends more on the person's actions than on authorial declarations.

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sistermagpie April 2 2010, 20:12:30 UTC
Yup, if they were going to show it I've no doubt they would clean it up just that way.

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