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[deathmallow]

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(Fandoms include: THG, ATLA/LoK, BSG, Spartacus, LotR/Tolkien, Neverwinter Nights 2, HP, GoT/ASoIAF, Breaking Bad, Homeland, some Marvel and DC, Firefly, Sleepy Hollow, Les Miz, PotC, or historical)

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[deathmallow]

Yep! :D

Hmmm. I think on first blush they'd get along OK, slinging quips around and perhaps sharing a taste for rum. But I think they'd run afoul eventually. Jack espouses the pirate ideal of "every man for himself", lust for treasure, etc., and I feel like Haymitch would eventually find him to be a little too greedy and self-serving, and Jack would find Haymitch a little too straight-laced underneath his snark. Jack has his good points, don't get me wrong, but he's most definitely a rogue archetype, and Haymitch isn't.

I think actually DMC!Norrington/"Scruffington" (because AWE didn't happen because it's a hot mess...) and Haymitch would get along as a great pirate brOTP instead. Yeah, Norrington's still a little more towards Lawful Good and Haymitch is a bit more flexible on the chaos axis. But they both understand failure and guilt over the loss of people they feel responsible for, they're deeply loyal to a community ideal rather than looking out for themselves, they try their utmost to look out for those they care about even at their own expense, they expect nothing from those people in return, they both have a dry sense of humor, they've both resorted to alcoholism and squalor in dealing with their guilt and depression...they're both seeking redemption, in a way.

"What has the world done to you?"/"Nothing I didn't deserve" really is a line that I feel could just as easily be said by Haymitch as Norrington.

Edit: Tell me about your favorite and least favorite aspects of Gone With the Wind.

[retrostarfish]

Oh, I didn't even remember that about Norrington, but you're right. (I'm more a On Stranger Tides person, because I love Jack's character, but can't stand Keira Knightly or Orlando Bloom in the movies. LOL)

Hmm, this is hard. I think what my least favorite aspect on the whole is the way theories romanticized the South and its role in the Civil War. The book was, in my opinion, much more critical of the beloved Cause of the South, and did not paint it in such a great light. Of course, the book also romanticizes slavery, and that's never good.

My favorite aspect is the overall emphasis on surviving in difficult situations and not letting them destroy you; being able to adapt to changes. It's one of the reasons I relate so much to Katniss, because I believe there are a lot of similarities between Scarlett and Katniss -- and I relate to that same aspect in both of them, of being a survivor. In fact, this is basically the principle I'm writing AHU around, the common themes in both characters/stories. It's just a theme I really relate to.

[deathmallow]

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of Elizabeth or Will. Will's just bland, and Elizabeth is pretty much a giant annoying hypocrite. But I did really enjoy Norrington, and I felt like they utterly wasted his char in AWE.

Norrington/Abernathy bromance, though...hilarious crossover. XD

Yeah, the racial views in GWTW really are by far the most uncomfortable part, with the subservient "loyal darkies" who are so thrilled to keep working for the O'Haras, the KKK as the enforcers of order, etc.

[retrostarfish]

Oh, good job iphone. "The way theories romanticized the South" was supposed to be "the way the movie romanticized." Gotta love autocorrect. :P

But yeah, most definitely. It's interesting to see it as how the South most likely viewed it, and to get into their mindset. But it's gross nonetheless. And it doesn't even do it in a self-aware kind of way, that suggests the book/author knows it's portraying how things could be during the time period, but not exactly condoning it. It just out and out is like, "of course they want to keep working as servants! Yay, white elite of the south!"

Yeah, Will and Elizabeth are SO bland and annoying. I was okay with them in the first one, but by the next two it was seriously just, ugh, seriously? Especially Elizabeth. I don't even remember what the hell Will did most of the time, lol. But I did love Norrington in the second one, you're right.

[deathmallow]

I figured you meant the movie!

Norrington FTW, then. ;)

[retrostarfish]

Elizabeth was also a fucking Mary Sue and half. Like, of COURSE all the men in the series wanted to marry/fuck her, and she was the bravest one and the Pirate King, and blah. Blah. Blah. I hated her.

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Got it in one.