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"All was Well"

Feb 16, 2008 16:38

I consider that, in years to come, this particular phrase will be discussed and dissected by people more educated than I, and will (if Potterfiction stays as popular) be considered to be one of the greatest literary lies ever. For me it ranks along with "All animals are created equal" and will - just as that phrase was shown to be a nonsense -lose ( Read more... )

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lonewolf_eburg February 16 2008, 18:33:06 UTC

Re: "All was well" balooney ( ... )

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erastes February 16 2008, 22:53:41 UTC

That's what I find hilarious about her, the way she gets called on this stuff, panics, and then tries to retcon - which just does nothing except to muddy the canon even more

dementedsiren February 17 2008, 23:32:27 UTC

What do you want to bet that in a decade (or less if we're "lucky") she'll pull a George Lucas and realize a "special edition" that just happens to fix up everything. Bah - authorial ownership or not, authors need to take responsibility for what they write - when it's all in their head, then fine, they can retcon and spin stories around it all they like. However, once it's out in the world, being read and intepreted and taken to heart, it has to stand on its own.

erastes February 16 2008, 20:43:58 UTC

That's unbeleivable. Does she REALLY believe that? The woman is a walking delusion.

guardians_song February 16 2008, 23:03:17 UTC

Dearly apologize for deleting a post. My bold tag went nuts.

"I believe the context for her earlier talk with Emerson was something along... ah, I got it. Grab a barf bag. I'll highlight the MOST SICKENING PARTS.

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ES: Why is Slytherin house still -

JKR: Still allowed!

[All laugh]

ES: Yes! I mean, it's such a stigma.

JKR: But they're not all bad. They literally are not all bad. [Pause] Well, the deeper answer, the non-flippant answer, would be that you have to embrace all of a person, you have to take them with their flaws, and everyone's got them. It's the same way with the student body. If only they could achieve perfect unity, you would have an absolute unstoppable force, and I suppose it's that craving for unity and wholeness that means that they keep that quarter of the school that maybe does not encapsulate the most generous and noble qualities, in the hope, in the very Dumbledore-esque [my commentary: *breaks into laughter* ...Oh, gad, she wasn't joking. *weeps*] hope that they will achieve union, and they will achieve ( ... )

berseker February 17 2008, 01:27:35 UTC

Sweet intentions, poor executions. I mean, she kinda sees that is impossible for the Slytherin to be ALL evil (even if she contradicts herself sometimes), but she never shows it. What I saw in the books is one Slytherin staying to fight, and one Slytherin family being way more loving than all the others in the series. I'd mention Snape here, but he doesn't count 'cause he was sorted too soon.

Meh.

solar_type_star February 17 2008, 11:41:34 UTC

JKR: They could. But you must remember, I have thought about this -

[my commentary: ...My GAD, Dumbledore IS your self-insert, isn't he, JKR?! LOOK! Compare that speaking style to Dumbledore canon quotes! LOOK AT IT!]

Yeah, the only thing missing from the end of that sentence is "my dear boy".

Or maybe you can replace it altogether with "You don't know the history of Slytherins! I do!".

dracasadiablo February 17 2008, 01:14:42 UTC

All those interviews remind me of that old saying, "closing the barn after the horse has run away". It's like, she's (finally) become aware of all plot holes, and is trying to make it all better.
Somebody should have told her it isn't going to work.

jodel_from_aol February 17 2008, 06:58:58 UTC

The narrator pointed out that *Slughorn* came back at the head of a gropup made up of friends, families of students and the residents of Hogsmeade, and he did it just after dawn and the caterwauling curfew ended. In fact he was quite conspicuous in his emerald silk pjs.

So he *did* leave with his students, and he *did* come back with the villagers (along with Charlie Weasley). And that really is right there in the text.

But the narriator couldn't be arsed to note that any of the Slytherin *students* returned.

t0ra_chan February 17 2008, 11:33:21 UTC

And now that JKR said that her ass-kissers are falling all over themselves to show that she totally wrote just that, even though that no one even theorized about it before she opened her big mouth again since nothing even hinted at it.

Suddenly Harry just didn't see them (I guess they all hid behind Slughorn's ginormous ass), or the students are counted among the family and friends (except it says "of those who had stayed behind" which we know weren't any Slytherins).

JKR knows very well that she didn't write any of the Slytherin students coming back. In fact, she wrote that all left, most of them joined Voldemort and in the end the only Slytherins in the Great Hall are Slughorn and the Malfoys.

And what about this:

JKR: You will have people connected with Death Eaters in the other houses, yeah, absolutely.Yeah, except we absolutely didn't have that, did we, JKR? Death Eaters are Slytherins except Peter Pettrigrew, who is just the exception to the rule. Not one single Death Eater is identified as a Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff, never ( ... )

jodel_from_aol February 17 2008, 21:09:06 UTC

>JKR knows very well that she didn't write any of the Slytherin students coming back. In fact, she wrote that all left, most of them joined Voldemort and in the end the only Slytherins in the Great Hall are Slughorn and the Malfoys.And the Slytherin students joining Voldemort isn't plausible either, even if it is in the text. I think she totally forgot that she set up that caterwauling curfew in the village, because unless the students knew *exactly* where in the forest to apparate to join Voldemort, how could they have done so? They couldn't set a foot out of the Hog's Head without setting it off ( ... )

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