A word of advice.

Jul 22, 2007 19:19

Judging from the knowledge I find on this network, I am afraid to say that some things are just as I feared. I have come to learn that not only are some of the realms and worlds connected by these teleportation devices alternate versions of themselves, but alternate or future time lines as well ( Read more... )

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hotrod_mckay July 23 2007, 01:44:26 UTC
While your concern for people uncreating themselves in time travel is both cute and appreciated, I have a feeling that it is much more complicated than that. Just based on what I've read, it seems more like they exist in parallel to one another.

In fact, while I've failed to prove it yet, it seems as though time is very capable of fixing itself even with our interference. Of course this is all theory…and frankly it’s one I’m not itching to prove or disprove.

So, moving on, while it was a nice job in trying to protect your information, I agree. Or at least, in a fashion. It's the right direction, but that is just a temporary solution. What we need to do is interrupt the connections and then negate further attempts.

Which, in case you were and likely are wondering, is impossible.

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dead_scream July 23 2007, 15:04:16 UTC
In parallel? Yes, it is possible. It's also nothing we can prove at the moment, and I would rather warn with caution rather than risk the safety of many.

If time could fix itself, then I wouldn't be worried sick over the state of things right now. I also doubt I would have had to spend the majority of my life guarding the gates of time. Even more I doubt you have seen someone nearly fade out of existance due to something like this.I see. I will be more careful what I use this device for in the future then ( ... )

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hotrod_mckay July 23 2007, 15:57:04 UTC
That's not an accurate representation of what needs to be done though. Since its being done from OSTA’s end, it’s nothing more than a glorified defense measure. Scrambles either redirect to the entrance point or link to another. I’ve seen similar measures like this, so I should know.

Look at it this way…any device that can take something from point A and drop it off at point B is creating a passageway through subspace. Think of it like an invisible bridge through the layers of fabric that compose space and time. Now, deactivating it is only a temporary solution because reestablishing a connection is simple. What I’m proposing is distorting the subspace passageway and rendering that specific connection useless. That alone is nigh impossible ( ... )

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[Private to McKay] dead_scream July 23 2007, 16:19:31 UTC
When I say that they need to be shut down, I don't mean by any temporary means. I had considered something more like destroying the devices would be appropriate. I know it's hoping too much to just ask OSTA to comply; they certainly don't seem sympathetic to anyone.

But you point out some things I hadn't considered. Thank you.

I'm well aware what it involves to pass through subspace. However, if we use your method, there's hardly a need to bother with each and every universe. All you need to do is stop it at it's source. If OSTA is prevented from reaching out from Weisdia, wouldn't it be a matter of each world destroying the teleporters on their own?

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[Private to Setsuna] hotrod_mckay July 23 2007, 16:30:40 UTC
There are two essential faults with that.

1. You're talking about disrupting subspace on a global scale. That would mean that every inch of space and time surrounding Weisdia would need to be altered. That is not impossible, that goes against the Laws of Space-Time.

2. If that was done, you would have effectively turned Weisdia into a space-time anomaly. It would literally exist outside of the continuum of it's universe. Hence, the disrupted subspace may actually become a new subspace signature and hence, new subspace passage possibilities.

This, of course, is theory. But it's one that has a basis.

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[Private to McKay] dead_scream July 23 2007, 16:40:45 UTC
[A long pause.]

Yes. I suppose it does.

One taboo for another, such seems to always be the case.

[OOC: *dies* This is killing me. XD Setsuna wants to tell him off but she can't.]

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[Private to Setsuna] hotrod_mckay July 23 2007, 16:49:06 UTC
Of course it does. I did say it, didn't I?

[OOC: Well, he is McKay. XD It's the natural order to want to tell him off/kill him/prove him wrong.]

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[Private to McKay] dead_scream July 23 2007, 16:54:17 UTC
I'm afraid we may be referring to two different things. However it doesn't matter now.

Thank you for bringing these things to my attention, in any case.

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killthepast July 23 2007, 17:27:59 UTC
Pssh. Lotta work to close the whole works down, don'cha think?

When all you got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. That was the saying, right? So, take it from a career killer to a science monkey:

All you need to do is destroy their teleportation grid - really fuck it up, make sure they have nothing left - and then cut a swath through their population until they have nobody left who understands how their tech worked, and no records to retrain themselves from.

Problem fuckin' solved. They won't redevelop that tech on their own before they choke on their own gas.

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balancedshifter July 23 2007, 17:47:35 UTC
...it's a sad day when this sounds like the most viable solution to a problem.

I wonder when I started listening to murder-hungry lunatics.

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killthepast July 23 2007, 17:53:00 UTC
Tell you something, honey. Nobody ever says they approve of assassins. It needs to go through the system. We need to talk through this problem peacefully.

But when it comes down to it, and you've got a major situation on your hands, we get leaned on. We're clean, we're surgical and we're the only fucking way to get out of some crises without a bigger bloodbath on your hands.

It happens more often than you think.

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hotrod_mckay July 23 2007, 18:07:22 UTC
How wonderfully complex your life must be.

Unfortunately for you, not everything can be solved by pointing a gun and pulling the trigger. Actually, that tends to cause more problems than solve, in my general experience.

So, take if from a scientific mind to a blunt object.

That plan is beyond stupid. It's not impossible, it's completely insane. Your about as likely to achieve that goal as I am of finding a cure for citrus.

Now then, kindly stop professionally killing my brain cells and let the people with an IQ larger than their age solve this problem.

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killthepast July 23 2007, 18:19:31 UTC
Yeah? It's not my job to solve world fucking hunger here, and more problems get solved by putting people in the ground than you seem to think, egghead - as long as you do it right. As for your tone...

Your name is Doctor Rodney McKay, you're isolated from your home base, there are only two likely possibilities for your current location and neither of them would be well defended or difficult to reach, and there's nothing special about you that would stand between a .357-caliber bullet and the messy, juicy explosion of your forehead and its contents into discrete chunks.

Just something to think about.

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dead_scream July 23 2007, 18:30:41 UTC
Alright.

It's clear you both disagree. I don't think either one of you is going to convince the other at this rate.

I kindly ask that you both take your arguments and threats somewhere other than my post on this network. We are adults, aren't we?

[OOC: LMAO, leave it to those with IQs larger than our ages? I guess that rules Setsuna out. I don't even think IQ scores go that high.]

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killthepast July 23 2007, 18:44:47 UTC
Looks to me like the argument has been resolved.

Carry on, my good lady.

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