i'm happy; hope you're happy, too.

[daygloparker]

I didn't think I'd get to this post until like Wednesday, but whatever, HERE IT IS. In case you don't follow me on Tumblr and are therefore blissfully unaware, I have, um, EXPLODED WITH EXCITEMENT FOR ASHES TO ASHES. It's - reached basically epic levels. I... am... more excited for this to return than I am for Bones? (Whatever, Bones, suck it up

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[ohvienna]

Like, it's a good and plausible argument - and one that I would be totally sold on after the fact - but it isn't solid. There is simply too much ASSUMED connection between the two scenes. To me.

And re: the above comment, I LOVE YOU SHOW, and etc. I feel like all this that you're saying is assumption? I'm not really getting any connections of solid proofness right now.

It's odd, though, because...I'm on board the shows being connected, and the world being a place and Gene being a larger-than-life figure akin to your thoughts on him, I just don't see how dead Molly is dead negates anything. Really, really don't. It's not THE explanation for the world and for Gene, which I think is the issue at hand, and something that I don't know how they'll explain until they explain it. I guess I also have problems with applying mythology as a "this is my theory" because that's not how it's going to be explained. Like, I've seen nothing that would make me think that Matthew and Ashley are going off a classical mythology template, but I can see how it can be applied in a fun way? (there's Christian imagery, which I think is more their speed, but I also don't think they'll be literal/specific about it, and I don't think any of us want them to AT ALL).

I hate Martin Summers. This is not a commentary on theories, I just really hated that guy and season 2 could have been so much better. Still love the show, just, really hate that guy.

We can say the same things, perhaps re: we're both ASSUMING things, I don't think things are solid for 2x01 being real, since the whole season was moving in a trajectory to get Alex to wake up there, and the same conversations continue (that Alex would not even be privy to in the first place if it's real and that's not even her room where she could osmose all that information via the comatose state she'd be in...but, were it all part of something more elaborate, that makes more sense to me). And you're saying it's possibly Sam in 2x01 (who's already well dead at that point...suicide stamp...dead and buried) because there's an iPod in the room? How can he be a coma patient at that point in objective reality when he's clearly been deceased for some stretch of time. And then why is he suddenly dying? What does that add to the story of s2? Alex = writing a book about a man who killed himself, so. I don't think the connections between the two scenes are all that ASSUMED so much as they are just REALLY CONNECTED BY MUTUALLY THE SAME PLOT THREADS AND PEOPLE AND CONVERSATIONS. I'm really not at all seeing the proof that 2x01 is the actual present. Also, HA that they mention Molly in the news report and turn it off in the middle of the sentence. I also enjoy the notion of Summers coming from a deeper realm of Alex's subconscious that actually winds up driving her deeper into her crazy, and not a real dude also living out some scenario akin to Sam and Alex because they are special and he is bullocks. Also, I fucking hate that guy.

Simply, I think that S2's plot was a narrative leading us (and Alex) to think one thing was happening, and then, OH, THERE IS A TWIST ENDING, and none of it was real/objective reality.

IDK, we don't need to go on too much about it all. I do feel like we aren't thinking different things in that IA that the world and Gene and what they are are WHAT'S THE WHAT and what everyone wants to know. I just see so much evidence all over both seasons for dead Molly being a point in Alex's journey that really doesn't negate anything about the world, and I don't see a lot of literal filmic evidence for apply Greek mythology as The Explanation (I see it as a template, not something that's actually going to be portrayed in a detailed way, which I'm assuming is also what you're thinking but I'm not sure?).

I don't know if I've explained it before, but when I saw 1x01 for the first time, I thought the first 10 minutes were shit. Nothing about them made logical sense to me, re: the staging and turn of events. The only way I think that the scene works is if there's a lot more to it. And I don't think that Matt and Ashley would say things about it being so important if it was just what it was, that's all. I like things to be deeper than the obvious, and I think they have it in them to do that. :)