New Livejournal terms of service

Apr 12, 2017 12:37

I'm not sure if you all have seen the new Live Journal terms of service, but in my mind, they seriously compromise the ability of this site to serve as a forum for our community: http://www.livejournal.com/legal/tos-en.bmlRead more... )

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ron_newman April 12 2017, 21:20:38 UTC
I have actually done this import process twice, in late December and early this month, and will do one more import later this week. See https://davis_square.dreamwidth.org .

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leafshimmer April 12 2017, 22:41:22 UTC
Great news! Thanks, Ron.

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leafshimmer April 12 2017, 17:44:47 UTC
I have a DreamWidth account and still need to update some entries over there via import, but a friend said she read somewhere that the Russian owners don't pay any attention unless an individual entry gets more than 30,000 hits. I would presume that to be extremely unlikely with this community.

Not to minimize the concerns, though. Another theory is that the new ToS is aimed mainly at political bloggers writing in Russian and other Eastern European languages. So, who knows.

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siderea April 14 2017, 04:00:26 UTC
3,000 unique visitors a day is the yardstick, and I think that's actually where Russian law (!!!) puts it - the line that differentiates a social networking account from a blog, for the laws regulating what can be posted on a blog.

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cos April 12 2017, 18:18:59 UTC
This hit while I'm travelling, but I did find time to move my personal account to dreamwidth this week. Well, did the import last week, but only figured out the crossposting and footer and added more people and started using it this week. I know we have a davis_square community on dreamwidth, from a while back, created for this eventuality, but I haven't had time to look at its settings or think about it. I wanna catch up w/ron_newman about how to do a move to there, when I get home next week.

P.S. I would favor getting everyone to post there rather than here, and having it crosspost to here, but I don't know if crossposting is supported for communities, so that may not be possible.

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nonelvis April 12 2017, 18:56:48 UTC
Communities can't cross-post, unfortunately. The way I've worked around it for a Dreamwidth comm I administer is to set up an LJ subscription to the Dreamwidth comm's RSS feed, but that still requires people subscribing to the RSS feed here rather than continuing to read the (now-abandoned) LJ comm pages.

There may also be a way to use a combination of IFTTT and LJ's post-by-email feature for this. See this kind person's comment for more info.

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Come to Dreamwidth. We have pie. ext_4089291 April 12 2017, 19:38:27 UTC
We could. We could have a dreamwidth DS pie party.

Anyway, Dreamwidth is awesome. The site is accessible, unlike LJ. Comments load without Javascript so they load much faster. Comment length limits are longer. The site owners are great people, and have stated there will never be ads and they will never sell user's personal information. Support is responsive and friendly. You can import livejournal communities. They comply with US law, but they make take-down claimants go through all necessary hoops, instead of proactively assuming all takedowns are valid, making it much harder to harass DW users. The community is warm and welcoming. The diversity statement is a work of art and they live by it.

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secretlyironic April 12 2017, 20:30:24 UTC
I suppose someone ought to mention /r/somerville as an alternative as well. I know Reddit is also problematic in its own way of course.

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ron_newman April 12 2017, 21:23:10 UTC
I like Reddit and am active there as well (a few people know my name there), but I don't think it can serve as any real substitute for what we have here.

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