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Oct 06, 2005 13:55

From The president's speech this morning:

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Over the years these extremists have used a litany of excuses for violence -- the Israeli presence on the West Bank, or the U.S. military presence in Saudi Arabia, or the defeat of the Taliban, or the Crusades of a thousand years ago. In fact, we're not facing a set of grievances that can be soothed ( Read more... )

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jbriggs October 6 2005, 14:25:08 UTC

Its not a real war, Congress didn't declare one.

There are a bazzilion justifications for people holding greivances vs. the United States, beginning with the Monroe Doctrine and accelerated by the policys of Woodrow Wilson and every President since.

The only justification our long-winded president can possibly have for continuing this debacle is to raise the spectre of Bugbears and keep the population clamoring for protection from same, and in so doing reduce the liberty of all free thinking Americans.

History shows that Charles Martel's victory at Poitoers in 732 A.D. put a stop to the advance of the radical ideology with inalterable objectives: to enslave whole nations and intimidate the world.

From outside our borders it sure looks like we're the ones promoting a radical ideology with inalterable objectives: to enslave whole nations and intimidate the world.

Lets all hope that the indictments of Delay, Libby, and Rove lead to further ones against Frist, and the impeachment, trial and conviction of Cheney and Bush, so to let the Real Republicans (of the party I was proud to call my own) cast off the dictums of the Religious Right and put the country back on the track of Justice and Freedom for ALL.

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darrelx October 6 2005, 14:54:28 UTC
Lets all hope that the indictments of Delay, Libby, and Rove lead to further ones against Frist, and the impeachment, trial and conviction of Cheney and Bush
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Yes, let's have a weak and probably illegal indictment that resulted from the politically motivated vendetta of an overzealous prosecutor fuel the fires of hatred and ignorance. Let's have Grand Jury decisions, of which the evidence presented is not even available for review by the defense, and where the Jury foreman when interviewed said that he made up his mind before hearing the evidence... Yes, let's have that dictate our hatred against Bush and his cronies.

DeLay's indictment is a joke. The charge he was indicted for was for something that happened PRIOR to the statute that made it illegal went into effect... assuming that he actually did what was claimed, it wasn't even illegal at the time. His indictment will be overturned very soon now... just watch.

, so to let the Real Republicans (of the party I was proud to call my own) cast off the dictums of the Religious Right and put the country back on the track of Justice and Freedom for ALL.

Just for the record, I don't agree with the religious-right, or any organized religion for that matter.  It just happens that most of them have the same stance on economic and international issues that I have, and most of them are in the Republican party.

Just because I agree with much of the republican party's platform doesn't mean that I'm some automaton that doesnt think for himself. I disagree with much of their platform as well, but not as much as I disagree with the Dems.

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bovil October 6 2005, 17:07:28 UTC
Any prosecutor worth his salt could indict a ham sandwich.

Last week's indictment is pretty much worthless, as you point out the now-illegal activity happened before the law was in effect. It doesn't matter that there are copies of the checks showing the transfers happened in evidence.

This weeks' money-laundering indictment isn't worthless, and is supported by more ethically damning evidence that DeLay and Blunt constructed party fundraisers that were designed to raise more money than specified while diverting the unreported surplus to Blunt's son's campaign and DeLay's wife's consulting business.

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darrelx October 7 2005, 15:37:25 UTC
DeLay finds it interesting that Ronnie Earle, the proscutor heading the witch-hunt against him in Travis County, Texas, is himself apparently guilty of accepting the same kind of contributions that he accuses DeLay of accepting.

Indictments are easy to get because there is little or no defense opportunity. Indictments are not proof of wrong-doing, just that a Grand Jury was convinced that there *might* be something to look into.

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