If a woman is wearing a mini-skirt, SHE IS NOT ASKING FOR IT. If a woman brings a man into her apartment, SHE IS NOT ASKING FOR IT. If a woman goes to a party, SHE IS NOT ASKING FOR IT. If a man rapes a woman, IT IS HIS FAULT. HE IS NOT THE VICTIM.
I don't understand why this is hard to understand! Fucking son of a fucking bitch! I am so angry right now I could choke somebody.
Rape by coercion is still rape. If she said no and he used psychological means (power, persuasion, etc) to talk her into it, that's rape. I had a friend who was with her boyfriend, started getting it on, said no, he stopped and talked her into 'taking something to relax' and then when she was too loopy to say no raped her. She didn't say no, but she was coerced into the position of not being able to say no. It's never the woman's fault. Ever. Men have the responsibility to not rape us. We do not have the responsibility of not being raped.
And FYI some women don't feel like they have a choice in saying no for whatever reason and later realize that they were pressured. I was hanging out with a guy at my place watching a movie and even though he was making me uncomfortable putting his hands in my shirt and kissing on me, I didn't tell him to stop directly because I'm inexperienced and didn't know how. I felt pressured and uncomfortable, and when I made it clear that I was uncomfortable by moving his hands or moving away, he should have stopped but I let him go on much longer than I was okay with. That is a very, very minor example, but some women don't have the knowledge, strength, or ability to say no when somebody is begging them or coercing them in some way. It's never okay. No means no.
Well, like I said, my view is not the popular one. While in your first example I'd say that's clearly rape because the woman was incapacitated and unable to say no in your second example, had sex followed and provided that you'd agreed to it, it would not be rape in my view. I agree that psychological pressure and coercion are the same as physical restraint however when there is a clear choice and no fear of harm I would not call it "rape." There are lots of ways to take advantage of someone, they're not all called rape.
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If a woman is wearing a mini-skirt, SHE IS NOT ASKING FOR IT.
If a woman brings a man into her apartment, SHE IS NOT ASKING FOR IT.
If a woman goes to a party, SHE IS NOT ASKING FOR IT.
If a man rapes a woman, IT IS HIS FAULT. HE IS NOT THE VICTIM.
I don't understand why this is hard to understand! Fucking son of a fucking bitch! I am so angry right now I could choke somebody.
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