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hello there. well, on one of my recent posts, if you read it, it was about a discussion i had w/ somebody about religion. maybe it was the way i worded it or something but an annonymous poster saw it as an attack. if anyone was attacking, it was the person i was discussing the subject with. usually when anybody says anything too offensive to me i don't pay attention or let it effect me because i used to be one of those extremely impressionable and gullable people who would just absorb what everyone else said and let it get to me. but for some reason, i felt the need to pick at this one person's comment and hope that they'll come back and read this. they probably won't reply though, they don't have to because they posted as anonymous so i don't know who they are so they feel no obligation too. anyways, here's their commment:
so what makes you the religous king. no one has the right to tell others their beliefs are wrong. so what if she was taught. what if now she truley believes in it and it helps her to better her own life. that is what religion is for. yes the bible is stories but they are stories of hope and inspiration, that tell people " you know if you do the right thing, and believe in god and jesus, that things will work out". just becuase you are so avidly against it you try to put others down.
im jewish i was raised that way and i am proud of my beliefs but it does not dictate my charater. i dont call christians gentiles(if oyu eben kmow what that means) and i dont attack muslums. who are u to question others? how is that fair what u did to her? you attacked her and felt proud and now you continue to demean her. you must feel proud to be another religous anarchist.
you know sometimes people had a hard life and they need something to fall back on for support when a person cant be there, but i guess that is too ignorant for u as well. the fact of the matter is the promotion of religion may be corrupt, but there are people who are honestly saved by it, and i have been lucky enough to see it. i guess you havent, and you choose to follow the lead of a selfish band, and you own ignorance, you may think you are thinking out side the box, but you are more in that the people you use to be your derogatories.
*i know that i'm no "religious king" and never claimed to be. and i never at any point told her that her religion was wrong. and i know that her religion has caused her to be a better person because i remember how she was before she was very religious, and it wasn't a very kind person. i'm glad that your religion doesn't get in the way of your character. i don't mean this towards all religious people, but in general, most religious people i know have just become mindless androids letting the bible and all those litle stories control them. i don't think it's a bad thing, that's their choise. and i'll never tell anyone their religion is wrong. who am i to tell them that? no religion is wrong. i'm definitely not against religion, i'm all for it, and i don't put people down. if you knew me personally (maybe you do, i don't know because i don't know who this is) you would know that i have way too much low self- esteem to put anyone else down. where did i mention anything about putting her down? i just tried to make her think. from time to time i like to do that, make people think. kind of like what you did w/ your comment. it made me think. they just always seem so robot-ish that i like to see if they can form any ideas on their own. but it's always the same answers; those given to them. you're right, i don't really know what "gentiles" mean, but i'm glad that you don't call christians that, i guess? who am i to question others? i'm just me. everyone has the right. just like the girl who i was discussing this with, brenda, questioned me. everybody does it because religion tends to be one of the strongest emotions or whatever you want to call it that everyone seems to think that their beliefs are the right ones. even if you don't put others down for their beliefs inside your head you're still thinking "well, my way's the right way for me". or at least most people do. and i'm not an anarchist. definitely not. i almost pity anarchists because what do we have without faith? it's just kind of a sad idea. i'm pagan. i'm not one of those pagans who should just call themselves wiccan because they do all that ritual witchy crap. i'm simply a child of the earth. and i believe in the earth and her energy and power and so on and so forth. it's like this, i believe in the power of belief. i think that if somebody believes in god then he is real, for them. if they believe in heaven then that is what destination awaits them. i don't believe in heaven, so when i die it won't be there for me. i believe in recollecting back into the earth's energy sourse. i will just decompose and become part of that where i came from. and i know that she didn't have a hard life, but even if she did i think it would be weak of her, or anyone, to rely on anything. i hate that. i don't think there's anything wrong w/ that, it's just weak in my eyes. to me there isn't really a wrong or right, everything just... is. maybe im just too lazy to form any real morals, or maybe i'm just way too open-minded, but that's just how i see things. and i don't think that i think outside the box. no one really does. it just makes me laugh because you weren't there, so you didn't see the real attacker. i never put her down for believing in god, i even said "good for you". i just found it a true turning point when she called herself brainwashed. my friend and i simpy gave her the same situation in just different surroundings and she saw it as brainwash. and when i told her about my religion all she could say is "well that's wrong and you're going to hell for not believing in god. god's real and you must follow him. it's the only way to go." and etc... she totally attacked us, but we didn't care because, of our faith. no one ever really listens to the opposing side because the one thing people usually never change their mind about, is their religion. most people are just blinded by it, and others just find it the most suiting. maybe i had no right seeing as how i've never really studied the religion or know much about it. which is why i didn't pick at it. i just tried to tell her my opinion. that the only reason she believed in what she did was because that's what she's been told to believe all her life. and she was really ignorant about it, but there's nothing wrong with that. as long as she's happy w/ it. and she is. and i guess that's all i have to say. i hope you know i'm not trying to argue w/ you, i actually hate arguing besides the rare occassion where i feel like arguing to boost my esteem. maybe that's what this was w/ brenda, because i knew she'd say something extremely ignorant and i would be reassured that i can always count on some people to never change their views and what not. that may sound degrading and awful, but oh well. everyone has to do something of the sort every once in a while. and don't deny it, it's a human function. it's just what we do. i probably didn't help w/ this post, you might even hate me more, but oh well. you may through any comments you wish to through, just be honest, but please at least try to see the situation from my point of view before deciding to settle w/ brenda's side. maybe you're right, maybe i was too rude. i promise i'll apologize to brenda on tuesday when i see her at school. if you've read this, thanks for taking the time. if you comment, that's even better.
-Jessica
so what makes you the religous king. no one has the right to tell others their beliefs are wrong. so what if she was taught. what if now she truley believes in it and it helps her to better her own life. that is what religion is for. yes the bible is stories but they are stories of hope and inspiration, that tell people " you know if you do the right thing, and believe in god and jesus, that things will work out". just becuase you are so avidly against it you try to put others down.
im jewish i was raised that way and i am proud of my beliefs but it does not dictate my charater. i dont call christians gentiles(if oyu eben kmow what that means) and i dont attack muslums. who are u to question others? how is that fair what u did to her? you attacked her and felt proud and now you continue to demean her. you must feel proud to be another religous anarchist.
you know sometimes people had a hard life and they need something to fall back on for support when a person cant be there, but i guess that is too ignorant for u as well. the fact of the matter is the promotion of religion may be corrupt, but there are people who are honestly saved by it, and i have been lucky enough to see it. i guess you havent, and you choose to follow the lead of a selfish band, and you own ignorance, you may think you are thinking out side the box, but you are more in that the people you use to be your derogatories.
*i know that i'm no "religious king" and never claimed to be. and i never at any point told her that her religion was wrong. and i know that her religion has caused her to be a better person because i remember how she was before she was very religious, and it wasn't a very kind person. i'm glad that your religion doesn't get in the way of your character. i don't mean this towards all religious people, but in general, most religious people i know have just become mindless androids letting the bible and all those litle stories control them. i don't think it's a bad thing, that's their choise. and i'll never tell anyone their religion is wrong. who am i to tell them that? no religion is wrong. i'm definitely not against religion, i'm all for it, and i don't put people down. if you knew me personally (maybe you do, i don't know because i don't know who this is) you would know that i have way too much low self- esteem to put anyone else down. where did i mention anything about putting her down? i just tried to make her think. from time to time i like to do that, make people think. kind of like what you did w/ your comment. it made me think. they just always seem so robot-ish that i like to see if they can form any ideas on their own. but it's always the same answers; those given to them. you're right, i don't really know what "gentiles" mean, but i'm glad that you don't call christians that, i guess? who am i to question others? i'm just me. everyone has the right. just like the girl who i was discussing this with, brenda, questioned me. everybody does it because religion tends to be one of the strongest emotions or whatever you want to call it that everyone seems to think that their beliefs are the right ones. even if you don't put others down for their beliefs inside your head you're still thinking "well, my way's the right way for me". or at least most people do. and i'm not an anarchist. definitely not. i almost pity anarchists because what do we have without faith? it's just kind of a sad idea. i'm pagan. i'm not one of those pagans who should just call themselves wiccan because they do all that ritual witchy crap. i'm simply a child of the earth. and i believe in the earth and her energy and power and so on and so forth. it's like this, i believe in the power of belief. i think that if somebody believes in god then he is real, for them. if they believe in heaven then that is what destination awaits them. i don't believe in heaven, so when i die it won't be there for me. i believe in recollecting back into the earth's energy sourse. i will just decompose and become part of that where i came from. and i know that she didn't have a hard life, but even if she did i think it would be weak of her, or anyone, to rely on anything. i hate that. i don't think there's anything wrong w/ that, it's just weak in my eyes. to me there isn't really a wrong or right, everything just... is. maybe im just too lazy to form any real morals, or maybe i'm just way too open-minded, but that's just how i see things. and i don't think that i think outside the box. no one really does. it just makes me laugh because you weren't there, so you didn't see the real attacker. i never put her down for believing in god, i even said "good for you". i just found it a true turning point when she called herself brainwashed. my friend and i simpy gave her the same situation in just different surroundings and she saw it as brainwash. and when i told her about my religion all she could say is "well that's wrong and you're going to hell for not believing in god. god's real and you must follow him. it's the only way to go." and etc... she totally attacked us, but we didn't care because, of our faith. no one ever really listens to the opposing side because the one thing people usually never change their mind about, is their religion. most people are just blinded by it, and others just find it the most suiting. maybe i had no right seeing as how i've never really studied the religion or know much about it. which is why i didn't pick at it. i just tried to tell her my opinion. that the only reason she believed in what she did was because that's what she's been told to believe all her life. and she was really ignorant about it, but there's nothing wrong with that. as long as she's happy w/ it. and she is. and i guess that's all i have to say. i hope you know i'm not trying to argue w/ you, i actually hate arguing besides the rare occassion where i feel like arguing to boost my esteem. maybe that's what this was w/ brenda, because i knew she'd say something extremely ignorant and i would be reassured that i can always count on some people to never change their views and what not. that may sound degrading and awful, but oh well. everyone has to do something of the sort every once in a while. and don't deny it, it's a human function. it's just what we do. i probably didn't help w/ this post, you might even hate me more, but oh well. you may through any comments you wish to through, just be honest, but please at least try to see the situation from my point of view before deciding to settle w/ brenda's side. maybe you're right, maybe i was too rude. i promise i'll apologize to brenda on tuesday when i see her at school. if you've read this, thanks for taking the time. if you comment, that's even better.
-Jessica