X/1999 - Discussions on character's sexuality/couples
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Especially Kamui & Fuuma, this question's been haunting me for a long time! After quite a while, I finally accepted them as a sort of couple or twisted romance (depending on if Fuuma was himself or as /Kamui/) but at first I didn't see it that way because I only support canon pairings.
Seeing Clamp's artwork of them & re-visited certain ( Read more... )
'One last comment on the subject: I am glad that the readers are happy that Sakura and Syaoran got together, but that anyone would think it's because they make a normal couple... it's a little disconcerting. Sakura didn't chose Syaoran because he's a boy close to her in age. If Syaoran had been a girl, if they had been far apart in age, as long as he was still Syaoran, I think Sakura would have fallen in love with him. It'd sadden me if you thought they're a good couple because they're normal.'
I fear that's their general politic about love which makes me feel a little disconcerned because this means Subaru didn't chose Seishiro because he's a male but... because is Seishiro. If Seishiro were all of sudden to reveal he's a female in disguise *sweatdrop* Subaru would love him all the same...
And the same applies for Kamui. Whoever he loved it's because that person was That Person and wasn't affected at all by that person's gender, age or everything else.
Now... if from one side is very nice to think to a love that care only about the inside of a person and not of the outside it disgregard completely the possibility that said person would chose a loved one according to that person's sexuality... if they have one. We can say that Shaoran was in love first with a male (Yukito) and then with a female (Sakura) and that Touya did the reverse thing (first Kaho then Yukito) because they were still confused about their sexuality... but who loves Lantis? Hikaru or Eagle? Sure, he could be bi and love both... but still I think CLAMP characters lack of sexual preferences.
As for the Subaru/Kamui/Fuma thing:
'But as for Kamui and Fuuma's relationship, it's really not correct to speak of them as "friends". I mean if you look at Kamui, you can tell Fuuma's all he thinks about.' .... 'Subaru's like a big brother, too.'
So I'll say CLAMP meant for Kamui to solely love Fuma...
And I apologize if all this doesn't make much sense but I'm kind of worn out right now... and with still lot of things to do...
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I just want to say that I completely and wholeheartedly agree with this statement. <3
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I've always thought that Subaru loved Seishiro because he was his "special person" and that the fact he was a man didn't matter at all. It's just happened to be that way.
Besides, I remember Seishirou saying in the manga : "I'm a man and you're a boy Subaru. It's just happened that the person I've fallen in love with is a boy". *Yeah, I know it by heart...facepalm*
When I read this sentence, I assumed that they loved each other because, duh, they're fated lover and that the fact they were both boy was just random.
Dunno. But of course the fact they're both men add a lot to the story, it's like a cherry on top cake :))
CLAMP I LUV U !!!
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On the overall, I agree with what jjblue1 wrote. I personally tend to support the "special person" / hitsuzen theory, which is obviously a main motif in CLAMP's manga.
It means that I logically accept the possibility for Subaru to fall in love with a female version of Seishirou.
But, I also agree with what you said about gender being an important issue (in TB as well as in CLAMP's other works but especially in TB).
Therefore, my theory is that :
- Seishirou is 25 and he's aware of his sexual inclinations towards men (so, yes, he's gay).
- Subaru is only 16, he's shy, hung up and undoubtedly still confused about his sexuality. He may be straight, gay...or even bi.
But if one take a look at Subaru's personality, his strict education, his position towards japanese society & his family as an Omniouji - isn't Subaru supposed to sire an heir someday to continue the Sumeragi line? - and on top of that the background of japanese society which seems to be not very tolerant...
Given all of this, I would say it takes Subaru more "endeavour" to accept his love towards a man / his "gay" sexual orientation and therefore give more strength to his feeling, because it means he's ready to face society/his family to claim his love for Seishirou.
As for the rest, only CLAMP knows !!!!
(Is that clear ? 'cause I fear it's not)
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At the time, Seishiro(u) might've not had an interest at all at 25 as no one knows when he started to love Subaru which is also a question. I don't think he is gay or bi at all because there is no interest in a gender overall, just Subaru, which happens to be a man but if he was female, it might've ended up the same way for Seishiro(u).
As for the Sumeragi clan, I suppose it could be a cousin or another relation & who's to say that every Sumeragi will be straight? In the manga (though it's mentioned in the anime) his clan might've even died out since Subaru isn't part of that clan anymore (I don't know if you're read the manga so I didn't want to spoil it if you haven't.)
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I was just trying to say in my previous post that a relationship between two guys, moreover with this difference of age -and the fact that Subaru is underage- has more contoversial potential than a classical "a boy & a girl" love story.
So I think that this is an important element in a manga about social criticism of japanese society, where frail people -old people, disabled people, weak people-are left on the fringe of society.
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