I wish people would stop talking about Knocked UpmistercreepyJuly 30 2008, 17:09:11 UTC
I don't think what you said applies to that film. At the same time, I don't really want to discuss the film--my most recent viewing of it was flat and unfunny.
Man I don't know if there are sufficient epic David Lean style films on my canon. Does Speed count?
It's no surprise that your thoughts on WALL-E focus mostly on the first 15 minutes or so of the film. They're the best part of the film, and maybe the best thing Pixar has done. I went into the film a little grumpy and was immediately awed, not just visually, but as you say with WALL-E's unusual aesthetic (I'm not sure if the cockroach applies in his anthropomorphicness, but Hello Dolly! sure as hell does--no one likes that movie). The problem is, it's also (along with the dancing in space routine) the only salient part of the film.
The plot of WALL-E is so tangential to the development of the film, yet the filmmakers continually bring it to the forefront. And while the aesthetic and characters of the film imply some of the best work Pixar has ever done, the plot ends up
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i didn't mention "knocked up" to bait youdanschankJuly 30 2008, 18:59:52 UTC
i was just thinking of something recent and "adult" that deals with masculinity and suspended adolescence, and it's the most obvious, everyone-reading-this-has-seen-it example.
once upon a time in america is kind of a david lean epic... is that still on there?
It's no surprise that your thoughts on WALL-E focus mostly on the first 15 minutes or so of the film.no they don't. the romance comes later, as does the whole issue of obesity, and the "introduction" sequence too. the only thing that explicitly refers to the beginning is his home
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yup, in the west is still on there. i'm guessing there are a couple epics...mistercreepyJuly 30 2008, 19:24:31 UTC
The overarching argument of your discussion is wall-e's unique aesthetic. I'm not going to do a word count here, but the rest of your points aren't developed in multiple paragraphs or over the course of the whole piece
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i wrote my response right after "bing"'sdanschankJuly 30 2008, 19:54:48 UTC
that's why i mentioned it. you read quick!
i think i just repsonded a lot differently. for example, i LOVED the cleaning robot. i thought he was one of those examples where the part-refers-to-the-whole? like, his needless pursuit of any trace of dust makes a perfect metaphor for the film's themes of needless labor, hygiene, etc. his job and very identity is a kind of "kipple." i also loved that he ends up changing his ways. i liked that the film felt like it could include anyone: robots, high-tech robots, out-moded robots, cockroaches, people, fat people, office drones, fred willard.
Man I don't know if there are sufficient epic David Lean style films on my canon. Does Speed count?
It's no surprise that your thoughts on WALL-E focus mostly on the first 15 minutes or so of the film. They're the best part of the film, and maybe the best thing Pixar has done. I went into the film a little grumpy and was immediately awed, not just visually, but as you say with WALL-E's unusual aesthetic (I'm not sure if the cockroach applies in his anthropomorphicness, but Hello Dolly! sure as hell does--no one likes that movie). The problem is, it's also (along with the dancing in space routine) the only salient part of the film.
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once upon a time in america is kind of a david lean epic... is that still on there?
It's no surprise that your thoughts on WALL-E focus mostly on the first 15 minutes or so of the film.no they don't. the romance comes later, as does the whole issue of obesity, and the "introduction" sequence too. the only thing that explicitly refers to the beginning is his home ( ... )
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i think i just repsonded a lot differently. for example, i LOVED the cleaning robot. i thought he was one of those examples where the part-refers-to-the-whole? like, his needless pursuit of any trace of dust makes a perfect metaphor for the film's themes of needless labor, hygiene, etc. his job and very identity is a kind of "kipple." i also loved that he ends up changing his ways. i liked that the film felt like it could include anyone: robots, high-tech robots, out-moded robots, cockroaches, people, fat people, office drones, fred willard.
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