The good and well, the ugly
Unfortunately, unless West Hollywood has yet to be counted, it looks like Prop 8 is going to pass. Even in Los Angeles County. That's a serious WTF. Where we went wrong? I think we didn't get out of our safe geographic areas. That's where the yes side got us. They had thousands upon thousands of well networked Mormons who are well known for going door-to-door.
Not to mention their millions of crappy chinese-made signs. I think we can be proud that the No side chose to use a union shop in Kansas. Yes may have won, but in no way did they do so honorably. Every talking point they had was debunked, but they had fear on their side, and we can never underestimate the power of fear.
On the good side, I'm seriously interested in visiting Alpine and Mono Counties, which are really the only inland counties that did the right thing. Also, the numbers so far show my little Orange County city of Aliso Viejo slightly ahead on the No side. That's with 27/30 precincts, so we'll see if that holds.
In really good news.. Palin is away from the Supreme Court, Marilyn Musgrave is out of the House, and of course a black man is the new president. The chances of us seeing a federal ammendment is now pretty much nil.
I hope he remembers that there are gay people still at the back of the bus.
I believe Prop 8 would have gone differently had Coretta Scott King still been alive. I got to listen to Mary Frances Berry a few years back at LLC. She spoke of how Coretta came to an understanding about gay civil rights and that Coretta did believe that the gay struggle is a mirror of the civil rights struggle that african-americans have had to face.
Tomorrow, there will be the first of many injunctions filed against Prop 8. There will be at least 32,000 litigants. Prop 8 is unconstitutional and to the dismay of the Pro 8 group, not immune to legal challenge. Of course, we're going to hear "activist judges", but that's going to be a bit harder with a sympathetic legislature and executive branch.
Prop 22 was ruled unconsititutional based not on the California Constitution, but on the 14th Ammendment of the US Constitution. That's where the supporters of Prop 8 went wrong. They also chose the path with the lowest bar for passage, and that is likely another misstep they made. The Supreme Court couldn't rule on whether that was Constitutional or not until after there were damages. We'll, come morning, it looks like there will be damages. Had they one a clear majority with over 60ish, the case might be more difficult, but I really think we are on the right here.
Get ready for a long court battle, but we will prevail.
In the meantime.. anyone interested in marching on Salt Lake with me on April 4th? It will be right in the middle of LDS General Conference. The Mormon Church has been openly waging an assault on gay rights since Hawaii 1998. It's time the people see who we are. We need over 21,000 people to be noticed. That's how many they can seat in their conference center.
Not to mention their millions of crappy chinese-made signs. I think we can be proud that the No side chose to use a union shop in Kansas. Yes may have won, but in no way did they do so honorably. Every talking point they had was debunked, but they had fear on their side, and we can never underestimate the power of fear.
On the good side, I'm seriously interested in visiting Alpine and Mono Counties, which are really the only inland counties that did the right thing. Also, the numbers so far show my little Orange County city of Aliso Viejo slightly ahead on the No side. That's with 27/30 precincts, so we'll see if that holds.
In really good news.. Palin is away from the Supreme Court, Marilyn Musgrave is out of the House, and of course a black man is the new president. The chances of us seeing a federal ammendment is now pretty much nil.
I hope he remembers that there are gay people still at the back of the bus.
I believe Prop 8 would have gone differently had Coretta Scott King still been alive. I got to listen to Mary Frances Berry a few years back at LLC. She spoke of how Coretta came to an understanding about gay civil rights and that Coretta did believe that the gay struggle is a mirror of the civil rights struggle that african-americans have had to face.
Tomorrow, there will be the first of many injunctions filed against Prop 8. There will be at least 32,000 litigants. Prop 8 is unconstitutional and to the dismay of the Pro 8 group, not immune to legal challenge. Of course, we're going to hear "activist judges", but that's going to be a bit harder with a sympathetic legislature and executive branch.
Prop 22 was ruled unconsititutional based not on the California Constitution, but on the 14th Ammendment of the US Constitution. That's where the supporters of Prop 8 went wrong. They also chose the path with the lowest bar for passage, and that is likely another misstep they made. The Supreme Court couldn't rule on whether that was Constitutional or not until after there were damages. We'll, come morning, it looks like there will be damages. Had they one a clear majority with over 60ish, the case might be more difficult, but I really think we are on the right here.
Get ready for a long court battle, but we will prevail.
In the meantime.. anyone interested in marching on Salt Lake with me on April 4th? It will be right in the middle of LDS General Conference. The Mormon Church has been openly waging an assault on gay rights since Hawaii 1998. It's time the people see who we are. We need over 21,000 people to be noticed. That's how many they can seat in their conference center.