Buffy rewatch continues...

Aug 01, 2008 11:17

I had the best evening last night. filmi-girl came over and joined me in my Buffy rewatch, If there is one thing better than rewatching BtVS S2, it’s rewatching it with someone who also likes it ;)

Plus, they were three of the eps I really love: ‘Reptile Boy,’ ‘Halloween,’ and ‘Lie to Me.’

Thoughts and things )

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dangermousie August 1 2008, 18:42:49 UTC
cheesy now (lol at Angel being 12 emotionally, so true! )

The funny thing is, I didn't mean 'Angel is 12 emotionally' as a bad thing at all. And not just because I get emotionally 12 myself, when in a relationship. I think the fact that he is so emotionally young is what makes me not have an 'eeeeek' reaction to think of him with teenage Buffy. And I love that unlike a lot of vamp stories, there is actually a reason why he is so emotionally young: he only started developing a functional personality after meeting her, really, in LA, before that he was too messed up for too long to have much. (Mr. Mousie always points out how girl-wish-fulfillment that whole scenario is: a hot guy for whom you are literally the meaning of existence. To which I always reply 'well, I am a girl.')

I agree re: S2 and 3. I can never decide which one I like best.

didn't change Spike's personality that much if you think about it... only stopped his evil deeds... as opposed to Angel really being different with/without soul

Exactly. Canon-inconsistent AND not-interesting. Two cardinal sins. I found it would have been so much cooler to explore, really explore that duality in Spike: a being without a soul, who can love, and clearly love selflessly. Such an interesting concept. And doesn't it also puts a tiny bit of doubt into what Buffy is doing, if at least one vamp can care, even if he still offs people? I mean, that might make him an evil person, but a person. But instead they did the stupid soul thing. Been there done that. I can rewatch S1-3 thank you.

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vanimy August 2 2008, 22:07:23 UTC
I think the fact that he is so emotionally young is what makes me not have an 'eeeeek' reaction to think of him with teenage Buffy.

Oh, okay. I hadn't thought about it like that before but I guess you're right. It does explain why I never had an icky feeling either.

And yep, am a girl too and am totally in love with the concept of a guy for whom you mean everything. *whistles*

You make a good point re:Spike being evil and yet loving people and how that would've put a different spin to the show (is it this cool to kill vampires right and left?) That would've been interesting but I guess they wanted to content the Spike/Buffy shippers because the only way their relationship wouldn't be unhealthy (because it clearly was in Season 6...) was if Spike had a soul like Angel. I guess that's why they did it but in doing so they totally made a rehash of the Angel plotline. But well, I enjoyed Season 7 more than I did Season 6 at any rate.

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dangermousie August 3 2008, 00:05:23 UTC
And yep, am a girl too and am totally in love with the concept of a guy for whom you mean everything. *whistles*

Padme/Anakin, anyone? :) *whistles too*

I guess that's why they did it but in doing so they totally made a rehash of the Angel plotline

I suppose you are right but they wouldn't have had to do it if they didn't screw up S6 so badly :) I like S6 better though, because the first few eps of it were quite good (and I love the musical ep) but there isn't a single ep in S7 I even mildly liked. And it had Kennedy. Hmmm, but I am a B/A shipper and it had smoochies, hmmm...

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vanimy August 3 2008, 20:40:23 UTC
I like S6 better though, because the first few eps of it were quite good (and I love the musical ep) but there isn't a single ep in S7 I even mildly liked. And it had Kennedy. Hmmm, but I am a B/A shipper and it had smoochies, hmmm...

Why do you think I liked S7 better? :P

I prefer S7 myself because while I can't remember an episode I loved, at least there was no episode I hated. S6 was way too dark for me, I found myself tuning in every week more out of habit than anything because I just couldn't handle all the darkness JW inflicted on his characters. Buffy had become that hopeless dark character, even Willow had given into addiction, the evil guys were good guys at first and then turned into horrible people, Willow killed a human being, there was rape and so on. No, I just couldn't. Intellectually I know why Joss Whedon did it that way but that was too much. I was glad to see S7 being more 'normal' let's say.

Well, about Kennedy she was so annoying indeed and I hated how they turned Willow from being bisexual to just gay all of a sudden. This is not what the character is about, being disgusted by men or something the way they made her in S7 sometimes... And I think it detracted from how special Tara was. (and the only reason why I remotely accepted the Will/Oz breakup. ;) because I bought into the relationship they built up with Tara) With Kennedy, it was just lust and it was just boring. *sigh* Waste of screen time, I agree.

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dangermousie August 3 2008, 20:56:36 UTC
Why do you think I liked S7 better? :P

I squealed like a banshee when he showed up and there was kissing. OMG. I get squeeful just thinking about it even now. A teeny sop of hope for all those hopeless B/A shippers like me!

Kennedy? GRRRRR. Yeah, I never understood why they tried to claim Willow was gay and not bi. Argh.

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vanimy August 3 2008, 21:22:07 UTC
I squealed like a banshee when he showed up and there was kissing.

*looks at your icon and sighs dreamily*

Yeah... Me too. As soon as he showed up, there was kissing, banter and just *sigh* B/A again. I'm glad they didn't forget the ship and left it open (the whole cake metaphor and all ;)). Since I never really followed 'Angel', it means they find each other again in a distant future. *denial land*

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dangermousie August 3 2008, 23:27:31 UTC
Yeah, I never followed Angel either (the thought of A/C *yikes*) so in my denial land, some time passed, they hooked up, figured the curse thing (or just bought a dildo) and lived happily ever after.

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