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cofax7 March 26 2007, 21:58:11 UTC
It's a technical innocence now, because Baltar did protest before signing the death order, but he did enable the occupation, and more importantly, he was the leader; he gladly accepted the power and the rewards of leadership when things were going well for the fleet, but refuses to take any responsibility for the failures of his regime once things went badly.

I don't think Lee was entirely wrong in his challenge: "What would you have done? What could be done?" However what's missing in the show, because only Baltar knows it, and he may not have made the connection, is that Baltar gave the Six from Pegasus (I think? Right?) the nuclear device which she set off near New Caprica, thus drawing the Cylons to them. He is a traitor, and he is responsible for the loss of life on New Caprica, but not in the way that any of the prosecution ever could know.

And, of course, culpable in myriad other ways, from the original crime of letting Six into the security system to not outing Boomer, etc etc etc.

I love Claudia, but there is such a ( ... )

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danceswithwords March 26 2007, 22:13:55 UTC
However what's missing in the show, because only Baltar knows it, and he may not have made the connection, is that Baltar gave the Six from Pegasus (I think? Right?) the nuclear device which she set off near New Caprica, thus drawing the Cylons to them.

Oh yes! I wish the show had made that connection, because all of the character flaws that let the original Six manipulate him led him to give Gina that bomb, but that time he was more knowingly doing something that was sure to cause some kind of terrible outcome.

I'm not sure if it's just me, and having my expectations interfere with my perception, but I don't think it's a very good one. Too broad and nasally, I think.

I thought it was awfully nasally at times too. But I was so hyper-conscious of it that I'm not sure how it would sound to someone who'd never heard her speak before. I think she has an unusual, lovely voice, and it seemed like a lot of its distinctive timbre got lost in the nasalness.

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fialka March 26 2007, 22:26:41 UTC
Nah, it's not just you. It's better than the first time I heard her do it in Hercules (she can now at least attempt the accent and act at the same time) but still painful to hear. I think it's partly because she doesn't really have an ear for accents at the best of times -- judging by some of the early stuff I've seen she doesn't even do proper Australian all that well. But mostly the problem is that it's not placed anywhere specific, so it roams from New York to Chicago to Sydney to Surrey and back to New York again, sometimes within the same sentence.

But hey...no pigtails. I can forgive a few slipped vowels for Miss Claudie looking like a grown woman again.

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danceswithwords March 26 2007, 23:31:31 UTC
I always thought she did a passable job in "Out of Their Minds," but it's possible that, everything being relative, Browder's "British" accent had melted my eardrums.

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fialka March 27 2007, 11:47:37 UTC
Ouch. As an American who's lived for years in the UK, the accents in OOTM are just painful from all sides. But that is kind of the charm :)

Then again, it was the first ep I ever saw and at the time I thought it was so dreadful I kicked and fought against any suggestion I should give the show another try for about a year. Good thing Cofax is even more stubborn than I am and kept at me till she wore me down.

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danceswithwords March 27 2007, 15:06:33 UTC
Ah, so it's all C's fault! The first episode I ever saw was "Kansas," and I was like, "All righty! That was weird," and didn't give the show another thought until the miniseries aired.

(I'm originally from the South and, ironically, I thought Claudia's lispy princess accent was a better drawl than you get from a lot of American actors.)

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fialka March 27 2007, 21:40:19 UTC
Actually, true about the drawl. I'd say she should stick with that one, but it's not really going to do her much good unless she's auditioning to play Dolly Parton. And um...nope, never mind, not even then :)

Though speaking of Painful southern accents...I just tried watching Cold Mountain.

::rocks gibbering in corner::

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