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raincitygirl April 5 2009, 00:08:28 UTC
I don't know how representative Savannah's classroom is of today's schools (or perhaps today's most pricey private schools), but I really liked the way that scene showed the children learning from computers, with the human teacher there as a facilitator. In some ways, the future is now.

I don't think it's all computers, all the time even at the fanciest of private schools, but, um, maybe they were in the computer lab rather htan the classroom? Okay, I've got nothing.

I loved the part where apparently Savannah can both read and type well enough to be having IM conversations with John Henry in class, and yet the teacher wants her doing Learn A Word (TM). Methinks she needs a more challenging classroom setting.

it's hard to say if she's telling the truth about Sarah's health or trying to drive a wedge between her and John, but Cameron is certainly lying when she tells Sarah that she's never just killed to kill, because what about the pigeons?

Eh, that didn't really bother me. Maybe because in the later ep with the pigeon, she wasn't trying to kill the bird, was in fact trying to let it go. And yeah, there's the thing with the pigeon early in Season 2, but again, the pigeon posed a problem. Pigeons aren't supposed to be inside houses. She didn't intend to kill the pigeon for the sheer pleasure of killing, but as the fastest, simplest way to solve the problem of it being in the house. We've never seen her kill anybody/anything for fun, where the goal is simply killing for its own sake. Which would tie into the story in the previous episode of the old man of the forest, and his bloodlust.

I think Catherine Weaver continues to struggle with connections. She says John Henry is vital to the survival of Savannah and Ellison, and by implication to humanity as a whole. But Savannah and Ellison seem to be key to John Henry's development in a way she doesn't get. It's not all one-sided.

Ooh, good point. EXCELLENT point, in fact. John Henry and Savannah are at about the same level of emotional maturity, so even though John Henry is probably much, much smarter than Savannah (who's a far from stupid child) they interact like siblings, or like same-age friends. Of course he doesn't want to harm his best buddy. But I think you're right and Catherine doesn't really get why that's important.

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danceswithwords April 5 2009, 15:06:07 UTC

I loved the part where apparently Savannah can both read and type well enough to be having IM conversations with John Henry in class, and yet the teacher wants her doing Learn A Word (TM). Methinks she needs a more challenging classroom setting.

Or possibly she needs John Henry. I just realized from your comment that John Henry was teaching her new words during their phone conversation. Neat!

She didn't intend to kill the pigeon for the sheer pleasure of killing, but as the fastest, simplest way to solve the problem of it being in the house. We've never seen her kill anybody/anything for fun, where the goal is simply killing for its own sake

It didn't bother me that Cameron lied, but I do think that was a lie. (I actually think it's very interesting that she can lie; she learned it from that other girl when she was reliving life as Alison, and she's done it since; and in this episode, we see John Henry lying for the first time. It seems to be a fundamental part of AI development.) I don't think Sarah was talking about killing for fun; rather she was talking about taking a buckshot approach and killing anything that got in the way rather than being extremely careful and selective. I don't think Cameron killed the pigeon for fun, but I do thinks she killed it to see what it was like, and because she could, not because it was necessary. If she could hold it that way, she could carry it out of the house; she wasn't careful or selective, she was taking the indiscriminate buckshot approach to the problem, using her own power. At least, that's how I read that episode.

John Henry and Savannah are at about the same level of emotional maturity, so even though John Henry is probably much, much smarter than Savannah (who's a far from stupid child) they interact like siblings, or like same-age friends. Of course he doesn't want to harm his best buddy. But I think you're right and Catherine doesn't really get why that's important.

That's a very good way of describing their interaction. And it strikes me that Catherine herself hasn't been able to form that kind of attachment, so not only doesn't she understand it, she also doesn't seem to get that this is something John Henry is doing that's very un-machine-like.

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