grrr re: basic account decision

Mar 13, 2008 14:40

::groan::

While offline this week, I learned that LJ has changed its account levels. Needless to say, Brad's pissed. I'm pissed. Not only because we both vehemently disagree with this change, but because they made such a change without consulting us. Or rather, we were both at a lunch a while back where they asked us what we thought and we ( Read more... )

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reddragdiva March 14 2008, 01:18:06 UTC
What can they offer?

It's mediocre as a blogging platform. Make it a better blogging platform. There should be nothing wordpress.com or blogspot.com offers that livejournal.com doesn't offer.

It already kicks their arses as a social network. Make it somewhere people would just happen to set up anyway.

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thaumata March 14 2008, 01:30:28 UTC
Agreed. I am losing friends left and right to WP and have a lot of friends who are NEW to blogging who would never come here, because it's actually easier for them to host their own WP blog, and it does more ( ... )

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shyfoxling March 14 2008, 07:52:31 UTC
I do wish we could add something to more than 5 memories categories at once, but I think originally Memories was not conceived of as being like tags and it hasn't caught up.

This, though:

limitations on tags. You can only have so many

What's the limit? I certainly haven't hit it, and I often think to myself "gosh, that's a long tag list, maybe I should try to consolidate it down".

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thaumata March 14 2008, 07:58:43 UTC
If I remember correctly, one may only have 1000 tags. (This seems like a lot, until you remember that some of us have blogged at least daily on LJ for years, or maintain very active communities.)

Additionally, clicking on a tag name only pulls up the last 100 entries that used that tag. I'm pretty sure there is no way around that.

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shyfoxling March 14 2008, 08:13:49 UTC
one may only have 1000 tags. (This seems like a lot, until you remember that some of us have blogged at least daily on LJ for years, or maintain very active communities.

It does seem like a lot to me, but then I resisted tags (not knowing why I should care) for some months? years? after support for them was introduced on LJ.

Additionally, clicking on a tag name only pulls up the last 100 entries that used that tag.

You mean you can only skip back that many entries (i.e. 4 times if you're on skip = 20)?

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thaumata March 14 2008, 16:59:02 UTC
Yes, exactly. So, if you had a community about fruit, and someone clicked APPLE as a tag, they can only see the last 100 posts tagged with apple, and nothing before that.

I have a really close knit group of real life girlfriends who all met via LJ. Every one of us has been blogging here for at least 5 years, and some of us longer than that. (I have about 10,000 entries in total on LJ.) We started a community of 15 women here once and blew through our tag limit in less than two years. At that point, we had the option to consolidate old tags (which should be OUR choice, not LJs and doesn't work anyway because the tag renaming function is dysfunctional), start a second community (which is stupid because we actually PAID for our space for the first one) or just give up.

Those options are unappealing when I could simply take my hosting money elsewhere and go crazy.

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triggerhappy March 16 2008, 03:59:15 UTC
Yes, exactly. So, if you had a community about fruit, and someone clicked APPLE as a tag, they can only see the last 100 posts tagged with apple, and nothing before that.

I had no idea. What's the point of bloody tags if it isn't going to bring up the posts one is looking for?

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foxfirefey March 14 2008, 18:59:02 UTC
Additionally, clicking on a tag name only pulls up the last 100 entries that used that tag. I'm pretty sure there is no way around that.

I think that's change to the past 1,000--not retroactively, however. (ie, when the change happened, it would build from the past 100 unless you went back and retagged.)

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melissophobia March 14 2008, 10:14:55 UTC
WE have a help button? I have been here a while, and never saw it.

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thaumata March 14 2008, 16:59:54 UTC
exactly. Each time I bring a new friend to LJ, I have to help them get started myself, because the FAQ button is hidden and there is just no good guide to getting started.

Compare that to WPs five minute install process.

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_swallow March 14 2008, 06:05:25 UTC
This is a pretty abstract comment, so, sorry about that, but I guess "mediocre as a blogging system" is a pretty abstract complaint. So, fwiw:

I think of what LJ offers as a journaling system, as opposed to a blogging platform-- I know its interface is really different from Blogger's or Wordpress's but I consider it fundamentally different from them, not inferior versions of them.

If you're talking about things-Wordpress-does-that-LJ-does-too-but-not-as-well, like the tags thaumata discusses, or basic site-organization things like making its features easier to navigate among, then that makes sense-- but I would shrink from any attempt to reorganize LJ's features along Wordpress's lines. I believe that blogging sites like Blogger and Wordpress operate on a one-to-many broadcasting model, whose intellectual ancestor is print journalism-- it's telling, e.g., that thaumata used the word "column" below to describe the content they might generate-- while LJ's interface supports a more one-to-one communication model, whose intellectual ancestor is the ( ... )

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