Diverging a bit...

Jul 01, 2012 06:52

After being submerged in Tumblr this past week, I've discovered that Rose fans really don't like any other companions. Just Rose. (Erm, sarcasm here.)

So how about commenting with the non-Rose companions you like, and why!

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_thirty2flavors July 1 2012, 14:41:01 UTC
WHATEVER, TUMBLR, I like all of them.

Martha is probably the most much-maligned and misunderstood. Wow, alliteration. Anyway, as a Rose fan nothing gives me more second-hand horror than seeing some kid on the Martha tag being all OMG MARTHA U STUPID H0R HE LOVES ROSE HOW DARE YOU GOD YOU'RE SO WHINY AND USELESS. I mean, none of the complaints about Martha even make SENSE. Martha is pretty much the least whiny person ever -- lmao and she spends an entire season beside S3 TEN and you're going to call Martha "whiny"?! -- and she also spends virtually every single episode stopping Ten from getting himself killed somehow. Ugh it's just terrible to me. Poor Martha. MARTHA DOESN'T LIKE YOU EITHER, TUMBLR.

What gets me with Martha especially is that there's sort of two extreme groups when it comes to Martha -- there's the people who hate her for [insert shitty reason here], and then there's the people who LOVE her but insist that RTD hated her, and they hate Ten and often Rose as a result of how badly Martha got treated. I can't really get behind either group -- I don't see how RTD "hated" Martha by giving her probably the most unambiguously happy ending?? and I think Ten's occasional dickery towards Martha gets really exaggerated. But anyway, removed from the 2007 fandom wank that never dies, Martha Jones is excellent and it is criminal that so many people dislike her for so many flimsy reasons.

I like Amy quite a lot as well. There's lots to criticize about Amy's story, I think, and lord knows I was incredibly disappointed with where it went, but on the most basic level I find Amy quite enjoyable -- she's fun and she's spunky and she's clever, but she's also quite rash, and I think she and Rory counterbalance each other quite well. In some ways I think her terrible storyline made me fonder of her -- I want so much better for Amy Pond. I wish she'd "get out" the way Martha "got out".

And obviously Donna Noble but lbr everyone loves Donna Noble.

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fauxkaren July 1 2012, 16:43:23 UTC
Yeah I cannot with the two extreme reactions to Martha. Martha was NOT useless. She is not a pointless character. But uh... I also think that RTD gave her a pretty fantastic and empowering story over the course of series 3. And the audience is supposed to sympathize with her. So idk why people think that RTD hated her.

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_thirty2flavors July 1 2012, 17:35:56 UTC
Absolutely. The Doctor =/= the author. The fact that Ten neglected Martha sometimes or spent so much time grieving for Rose does not mean RTD himself was sitting there going YEAH FUCK YOU MARTHA YOU'LL NEVER BE ROSE!! It baffles me that so many people can't grasp the difference between the character's actions and what the author is saying with them.

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frelling_tralk July 2 2012, 15:01:34 UTC
Yeah, a lot of people thought he was making his preference of Rose too obvious by having Ten be hung up on Rose still, but eh that was the story he was telling as part of his goal to bring more emotional depth and character arcs to the show

I highly doubt that RTD meant unrequited love as the huge slur that some people took it to be anyway, he painted Vince from Queer As Folk very sympathetically for his crush on Stuart and ended series 1 on

Unrequited love. It's fantastic, 'cause it never has to change, it never has to grow up and it never has to die!

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rosaxx50 July 2 2012, 04:38:08 UTC
Martha is pretty much the least whiny person ever

Except for the horror/gift that was her myspace page, apparently. But on-screen and in canon, Martha rules.

ANYWAY, yes, Martha is the best! And I do love Amy too, especially when her mouth gets her in trouble with the audience.

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_thirty2flavors July 2 2012, 16:36:33 UTC
Martha's Myspace was incredible lmao.

I admit it took me a while to get there with Amy, but s6 sold me. Well, actually, when s5 started I loved Amy and was "meh" on Eleven, but then as s5 progressed that sort of flipped, and then s6 happened and now I'm back where I was at the start, lmao.

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