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tiotditv April 1 2008, 15:49:08 UTC
Before I begin, I have to mention this. I haven't had a look at your profile in a while and I just saw it now... Why in the world do you have a picture of yourself and a smartrider on there?

Besides that, I have to mention something about a documentary I saw a bit ago. The first line of the documentary about slaughterhouses was "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian". It was an interesting look at the cruelty that animals are exposed to purely to feed us human beings.

I completely agree that we have to change our diet, and I must say that I myself quite often go a few days without eating meat, but although I'm trying to cut down, I still have it roughly twice, maybe thrice a week. It is an addiction, it's as simple as that. But how do you cure addictions, especially within greater society?

All the points you give are legitimate and genuine, I doubt anyone would question that. But it is a lot like cigarettes and cars. We know it is bad for us and everyone and everything else, but we do it anyway... because it feels good.

I question whether or not global vegetarianism is ever possible, there will always be people eating meat. But I do support cutting down on the frequency that we eat meat. At the very most, we do not need more than a single intake of meat a week, and that is only to sustain our addiction and withdrawl symptoms.

Essentially before you try to convince people with facts about vegitarianism vs carnivorism, you have to understand the psychology of the mass of meat-eaters.

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cyberchristchao April 2 2008, 05:18:26 UTC
Essentially before you try to convince people with facts about vegitarianism vs carnivorism, you have to understand the psychology of the mass of meat-eaters.

I don't bother trying, I realise that I wouldn't have much of a good chance at convincing someone to remove meat from their diet compared to someone trying to change ones religion. I'm generally a very defense in my rights, as I try to tell few people as possible in regards to my eating habits because I honestly feel that most people want to start some long winded argument that they refuse to think they can lose too. Even my girlfriend believed in having a long winded argument with me about this a few weeks back.

In terms of eating meat, I think the process we see of meat isn't really too different to those seen by sweatshops in certain Asian countries. It's been one very much induced by commercial greed and gain, where money has demanded the cheapest product over any sort of decent rights towards animals and even the workers. It's been a process that has been inspired a lot by the bigger businesses like the KFC's (who easily have the most appauling animal rights) and supermarkets exploiting for lower prices.

My vision is many steps even greater then global vegetarian which I know is completely impossible and one I'd struggle to get any near doing. The best thing that could happen to the world is if we all actually went backwards and all go raw vegan, basically the practice of not eating any processed foods. It's a bizarre idea which a lot of people couldn't handle but if you give it some thought it's an extremely beautiful idea.

Basically, the whole idea that one would consume a very minimal amount of chemicals when consuming food and while some might question whether one would get enough of this or that, there's also the argument with lots of peoples diets that they over consume far too much in various other areas.

The amount of chemicals that goes into food these days are insane and very few are for the actual health content, the majority being the opposite in regards to making food last longer, taste better or smell better. As for how much of a difference it makes a raw vegan told me that when they went to have a shit, they claimed it didn't smell due to the fact that there were no chemicals stinking it up, contrary to people thinking it's just food that does this.

The reality is that people spend billions of dollars trying to convince people that something is right till they accept it and will believe it religiously. As a animal rights activists myself, the amount of spin placed towards pro-meat agendas and how badly animal rights acivists are badly spun is crazy. I wouldn't be surprised if 25 years from now our foods are literally going to be chemicals then any sort of real food....... :(

ps. For the record, the smartrider pic is one of my favouriest pics, it's a reference to one of my favourite movies The Fifth Element in regards to the "multipass!" scene. I couldn't resist doing it as soon as I got myself a multipass, I mean smartrider. XP

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tiotditv April 2 2008, 14:42:59 UTC
In terms of the chemicals, you might also like to know that 0 plus 0 can still equal 1. We all know about the fact that there ARE lots of bizarre chemicals in our foods and drinks, and most of the chemicals themselves, alone have been proven to be harmless. Even the chemicals mixed together in one food can be slightly less toxic than we thinnk. The problem however lies in the fact that we eat all sorts of different foods with all sorts of different chemicals. What the end result of eating Food A with Chemical A plus Food B with Chemical B is can be almost incalculable. We just do not know the effects of the ever-growing cocktail of chemicals that we are exposed to, and the more complex the combinations become, the harder it is to research as well as that it most likely becomes a lot more damaging to your body. Solution - organic!

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cyberchristchao April 10 2008, 16:14:17 UTC
Organic = Yes

Water = No :(

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