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So I know it has been like 3 years since I've posted a entry let a lone even been on this thing, but right now I feel like I need to. I'm also sure no one is even going to check this since they know I don't use this anymore but even if no one reads it I still need to write this.
So the years in highschool had some goods times and some bad, but the ( Read more... )
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I think you are being totally irrational here. You have NO right to say those things about Julie when in fact she didn't tell you. The only way you can say those things is if she has told you herself. It is totally stupid to assume all those things JUST becuase you have heard them. My best friend is infact NOT a slut. She has morals. And excuse you for believing Julian. From what I know and have been told, Julie does not talk to Julian. Julie has a lovely life in Pittsburgh without you and him not in it. We all know this dispute has been going on forever, but honestly, get the fuck over it. You need to understand on the ouside that Julian is..well I can't even explain. I have known Julian since I was in kindergarden. I just don't understand how you can be "madly in love" with someone who has hurt you so many times. And I might be wrong becuase that is just what I have heard, but I mean, are you guys even together at this moment?
All I'm really saying is that you have absolutly NO right to insult my best friend the way you have. It is extremly rude of you. You have no right to assume ANYTHING. I mean calling her a slut, believe me, compared to you, she's prude. So don't even get me started. You all just need to get along. Have you ever heard of forgive and forget? And what kind of person even honestly asks a person to take someone out of their lives? That is extremly low. If you want someone out of someone elses lives, how can you even trust them? Then how can you have a relationship that doesn't have ANY trust?
So screw you for assuming all of this and insulting my best friend. You have no right to do that.
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and how dare you say anything about my personal or sexual life. I've been with one guy in my life that's it, and i know for a fact that that's 1 less then her, so how you think i am any less prude than her is beyond me.
but as far as i knew this little site was to say what was on your mind and not censor what you have to say for certain people.
and your little fact about how i have no right to do this, again go back and tell your best friend that the past two years she has had no right to do any of the shit she did. and this wasn't even talking about the past so thank you for telling me to get over it.
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Okay, I do agree on the sexual thing. I assumed. But has Julie told you how many people she has slept with? No. If you tell me where you are getting your facts from, I'd LOVE to prove them wrong. Julie tells me absolutly everything, and what you think(or apparently know from probably Julian) is not correct.
Your comment about the whole livejournal issue and who can post what does not make sense. I told you that it was your livejournal. I'm not stopping you. You can post whatever the fuck you want to on here. BUT, you did not disable comments or anything, so I can speack my mind.
Oh, and also, I'm not going to tell my best friend to stop doing something when she hasn't even been doing anything. Julie has forgave and forgot. She is in college now. She doesn't give a shit about this whole situation. You're the low minded bitch who wants her out of Julians life. Why on earth would you even say that to someone. Do you know how horrible that would make Julie feel? Regarding the fact that Julie is my best friend, it makes me even ashamed to be your friend. You're asking Julian to forget one of his friends. That shows that you have absolutly no trust in him. But then you say you are in love with him? Please, honey. You obviously don't know anything about that. (That right there did NOT mean I know something about that, becuase I don't.)
Anyways, you really need to stop being a hypocrite. You are assuming all of these facts when none of them are true. Again, you won't know what the hell is going on unless you talk to Julie. AND I know she has tried to talk to you, but you have simply ignored her. That is extremly rude and low. You're 19 years old. Havn't you learned that their are 2 sides of every story? And even if you don't like one of them, you just accept it?
And might I add, which one of her "close" friends has been talking shit about her to especially you? If they were her close friends, then they obviously wouldn't even be talking to you about this issue.
Finally, grow up. I cannot believe you are in college and you still are invovled with drama. You are acting like a 5 year old. I'm a senior in high school. Havn't you learned to just stay away from it. I know for a FACT that Julie has not talked about you. She's a mature 18 year old who has better things to worry about.
And I do believe everything I am saying are facts, not assumptions.
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People can love and be in love with people they don't trust. Love isn't something you can deal with in a specific way, especially since it is different with everyone.
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Let's respond to all of your comments one by one.
1)I didn't realize that now since I'm in college I am unable to write a comment fast resulting in some grammactical errors.
2) I had actually not thought about it for a while either, until I saw things julie said that were stated in the present which then made the situation come back up.
3)I'm not gonna say who so you can start shit with them too because they are friends with her and I don't want her to get mad at them, but no it was not Julian.
4)I understood you said I could say whatever I wanted, yet you still stated your opinion in a way that implied I shouldn't have said what I said- which is how I felt.
5)I wouldn't have even asked that if I really didn't think she wasn't a slut. I trust him, but she is the one I don't trust. She said it herself there is no just being friends with him. And from the same friends of hers I heard that "she was and is willing to be with any guy". So having friends who say that about her why should I believe she would care with Julian? She wouldn't. I agree that yeah it's a harsh thing to do, but he's done it to me and for that I think he should be willing to do it for me. But again, if I could truly trust her, then by all means they could stay friends. But everyone knows that is not going to happen and that there is no reason for me to trust her.
6)I have no clue what you mean when you say I ignored her?! um maybe she doesn't tell you everything, because I did respond. Thank you very much. But nice try.
7) I do know there are two sides to every story, but when the other side says that what has happened won't happen again and it does, why should I still listen to them? I know what they are going to say and I know what they will say will be all lies.
8)In case you were unaware, but people can have many friends, the can even be friends with two people who don't get along. So that's why they would talk to me about it, because I'm friends with them too. and they weren't talking shit about her they were just talking about college life and how people from our school have changed.
9)you should really take you own advise, I had forgotten this drama but then something i read of her's brought it back up to me and I wrote an innocent entry about how I felt. There was no intention for any drama to be brought out from it. And there really was no need at all for you to have any responce to it if you just think it should be forgotten. Your little friend who you think you're protecting already had told me how she felt about it. So Next time you try to insult me maybe you should think about your actions and see if your actions are the exact things you're making fun of.
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1. Let's forget about the grammar issue.
2. Did you check the date on that becuase I don't recal her saying anythin about that.
3. I'm pretty sure I thought you knew me. If you told me who those people were, I wouldn't start shit with them.
4. When I stated my opinion, I was just stating my opinion. I'm not telling you what to do on your livejournal, Kim.
5. I don't even understaand 5.
6. You must have misundertood me. When I said you ignorned her, I read your little mishap on facebook. She was telling you about what is going on between her and Julian. And it's absolutly nothing. When I said ignoring her, I meant it in a way where you ignored what she was saying. She was telling you the truth there. I don't understand how you can't believe it when the person who knows what is going on is telling you.
7. If you're saying thats happened between Julian and Julie twice, then why aren't you mad at Julian? Or are you? I mean you cannot blame everything entierly on Julian.
8. I do unsderstand that people have friends, but a friend who talks shit behind ones back is not a true friend.
9. There is no drama here between you and me whatsoever. We are both just stating our opinion. And yes I do think it should be forgotten. But you obviously didn't understand my main message. You cannot assume things unless you talk to Julie. But then again, you talked to Julie, and didn't give a rats ass on what she had to say. At least she was being thoughtful and tried to clear things up. And what exactly am I making fun of? I'm clearly trying to get you to not assume anything and talk to the people who know what's going on.
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2)Yes I did check the date, and true it wasn't like this week, but I thought this whole situation had been over for months, but the date was within this school year so yes it was news to me that the situation had occurred again. And since I had just read it, even though she had said it "awhile" ago it was really new to me so all my feelings for it were new and I wasn't hanging onto the past.
3)I thought I knew you too and I thought we were closer than we apparently are. But even if yuo didn't start shit, I'm sure you or julie would mention it to them and it was something they wanted her to know they said since they are good friends with her.
5)Was just talking about me putting him in that situation. I realize it was a harsh situation but things between me and him are between me and him and there is a lot more there then people know. And everything else I said already for #5.
6)I did misunderstand you. I ignored what she had to say about that because I heard it all before and it wasn't true, so why should I once again believe it? I stopped having expectation of people along time ago, so why should I expect her to actually do what she said she would when she never has in the past? Since the beginning of this situation, I've learned that when you have expectations you just get hurt and disappointed in the end.
7)I was mad at Julian. For the longest time I was, and even now I'm still really hurt. So no I was never just blaming her. But I was blaming her a little bit more then him, because girls are supposed to have each other’s backs. Have you ever heard the expression, chicks before dicks? That's what I expected from her, so when she chose dicks before chicks I was hurt and in disbelief. And that is why I hold more of a grudge towards her.
8)They weren't necessarily talking shit, we were all just gossiping and she came up, but no offense to that statement but I just fined it to be really ironic you say that when talking about her and this situation.
9) I responded to her response, if I misunderstood her or didn’t really respond to what she had to say she had the option to comment back and say that. The door is open to talk, but from what I've heard she'd done with me and talking to me.
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I'm not one of the people, and I don't see how I could possibly be, considering the fact that I don't ask you personal questions, such as those concerning your sex life, and therefore I would never comment about it.
I'm not going to say the people's names because you're just going to confront them and they're going to deny, deny, deny, and say that I'm lying or that Kim is lying or that whomever is lying. Trust me (and I know this is probably very hard for you to do at this point), but trust me when I say that your friends will lie to you just so they won't have to admit their faults. That they DID open their big mouths and that they DID say some stuff that you'd have preferred them not to, and perhaps even swore them to secrecy. It's just how life is. You can believe whatever you want to believe, and whomever you want to believe, but take it from me, friends talk about their friends all the time, and there's nothing you can do about it.
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"you didn't disable comments, which means I can say my opinion." Okay. But question: How did you find Kim's livejournal? Through Julie? You and she were never on each other's friend's lists. No offense, but Julie didn't need rescuing. She's handled stuff before, and she can do it again, and certainly Julie has voiced her opinion about stuff multiple times to Kim herself (and vice versa) so the opinions of others don't really make any difference and they really shouldn't be voiced, especially since there can be inaccuracy in the raconteurs, and actually, there are plenty of flaws in the tellings of the people who witness everything first hand (the actual people involved). Things become distorted because everyone always only sees one side of things, despite anything else one might say.
I think it is unfortunate that you, and others, believe everything that they hear, even from someone they trust so much. Moral of life: everyone lies and they will lie about anything. Or maybe not lie, just not tell the entire truth.
Talk about irrationality. Here you are ranting and raving about how people "can't do this" and "can't do that" because they "have NO right to say those things". EVERYONE has a so-called "right" to do whatever they want, and what Kim did, voice her own opinion, was part of said "right", whether it be true or false in your eyes. You have that "right" too and you voiced it. Okay.
"The only way you can say those things is if she has told you herself. It is totally stupid to assume all those things JUST becuase you have heard them... It is extremly rude of you. You have no right to assume ANYTHING. I mean calling her a slut, believe me, compared to you, she's prude. So don't even get me started." Now to turn the tables: has KIM ever come to you and said anything about whom she has engaged with sexually? in ANY way? (hand job, blow job, sex, and even a KISS). Well.. HAS SHE? No. So, as you so eloquently put it before, "You have no right to assume ANYTHING." I suggest you take your own advice.
I'm sure everyone realizes at some point that people you love and care about do things to hurt you, some intentionally and some unintentionally, so then comes in that whole "forgive and forget motto", which you mentioned and which Kim is obviously practicing because she has forgiven Julian. She just can't say/do the same for Julie.. not that she wants to.
"And what kind of person even honestly asks a person to take someone out of their lives? That is extremly low." I could get started on this, but I'm not. I've probably already written way too much. And btw, "Then how can you have a relationship that doesn't have ANY trust?" just because people have difficulty trusting one another, does mean that there isn't ANY trust whatsoever. People need to work towards trust, just like they need to work towards respect and so forth.
But basically: sometimes you just have to take it lying down. Forget about the all the shit that's gone down, and move on with your life. I know you probably think "well, I'm not going to let anyone trash talk my best friend" but sometimes it's good to just not do anything. Don't add salt to the wound; cauterize while you can and just let time try to heal what's going on. It's no longer a concern of yours, or even of my own for that matter.
Let the past be the past, let past mistakes people have made happen again if they do. The Fate of others is not up to you so don't try to change it.
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I'm not taking sides.
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Julie didn't tell me about this. Yes, I know I'm not friends with Kim on livejournal. Heidi actually told me about this. She told me to go check it out. So I checked it out, and I had something to say. So I said it. I'm not saying what Kim did was wrong. I'm just saying she cannot assume anything she does not know.
How is it unfortunate how I believe Julie? I acutally take that as an insult. Does that mean my whole life is a lie? I'm actually really in shock you said that. Thanks for the insult.
Actually Erin, take that back. Kim HAS told me before when we went to school together and some things her and Julian did. So yea.
Then, it really does seem like you are taking sides. You're totally crashing on everything I said. What about Kim? Is she little miss perfect?
Lastly, I never said anything about sticking up for my best friend. Julie is a tough cookie. I know she can get thrghou things on her own. My whole message was that Kim cannot assume anything. If she wants to know facts, then she needs to talk to either Julie herself(which she has) or Julian. It's not far to Julie to get things said about her which aren't true.
So Erin, I appriciate your whatever it was to me. But it really does seem like you're taking sides, so don't give me that crap that you aren't.
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all you have been doing is taking julie's side. so how can you even bad mouth erin for that? lol.
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hahaha.
random I know but I really do find this to be crazy.
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