marriage does belong to a church, though. the whole point of marriage is to produce children under safe and happy circumstances. aka the dad can not get bored and just up and leave without a fight legal et al.
alberta is the first province under ralf klien that gave homosexuals the right to a civil union.
a civil union is exactly the same thing as marriage, but it is not preformed in a church by a pastor but in a government building by a government official.
i know heteros that have a civil union because they are totally against religion.
you say that you don't believe in god or religion, so why do you care about being allowed to marry your future wife in a church in god's name?
fuck you could have done the same thing without all the god and jeezuz bullshit years ago.
think about the connotation of the word "marriage" and all that goes along with it before you get your panties in a twist.
yes, your grandfather was probably out of line for gay bashing,
however, think of the era he grew up in aka when when blacks were segregated and women couldn't vote and divorce was legal but TABOO as fuck and the man was the head of the household.
i mean, homosexuality was still considered a mental disease until the 80's.
its time to start giving people a bit of a break. i think?
its one of those things you realize when you meet more people...
i have a coworker who is from pakistan and she is 25 and speaks perfect english. she is a lawyer back home, and is just raising money to go to school so she can upgrade etc.
the point of me telling you that is that she is really against "same sex marriages" to the point where when we all joke about "marrying each other" she freaks out. its because her religion (and she is very religious) dictates that it is wrong. she doesn't know any better, and she comes from a place where a man is the most important and powerful being and women aren't even allowed to show any part of their bodies except for their eyes.
do i freak out on her? no. we're really good friends. she doesn't know that i am one of those "same sex" people and i don't want her to. also i don't want to force my beliefs and opinions on her because she doesn't do that to me.
Uhhhhh, for one. You really have no idea the kind of person I am or the kind of person my Grandfather is. I DO not freak out at anyone! I do give people breaks and I do realize this stuff. I blew up at my Grandfather for a few other reason's, nothing to do with homosexuality. I HAVE never listened to someone without taking their believes into account etc etc...or whatever else...I said temper is bad, showing my remorse for getting angry. The end.
sorry but I'm slightly offended by what you said there...What the hell do you think of me if your informing me that people have believes and that I should take them into account. I FUCKING DO! If you've read any previous ramblings, as that's all these things are anyway, you may have gotten that...or not, I am quite vague... I do not force my beliefs on anyone as well, if someone wants to argue my view then I will but I don't jump on people for their beliefs.
I don't fucking care about gay marriage, I think pushing it on either end is just stupid. I know that tid bit about homosexuality being claimed a mental disease.
I could argue that marriage belongs to the church but since my information is coming from somebody else's mouth it's just going to sound stupid...and well, according to what she say's though...she is taking a course in Universityon it, I beleive but I don't know, I'm not in the course. The connotation of marriage could have been changed...NOW it is man and woman but...I'll shut up now because I really don't know what I'm arguing. I'll get the info from her,sometime and post it.
I laugh at that Hitler thing. I should have said, I think he was a psychopath but I THINK he may have been as from the research I'm doing.Crtain things are noted about psycho's such as they seem to seek power...well, one type of psychopath anyway...I guess you could argue that he liked art and well, art = emotions but he kinda failed at his "art" so you never know...But do you know if Hitler showed any remorse for the dead jew's? Yes, what you said is true but I'm looking at this from a different perspective.
"alberta is the first province under ralf klien that gave homosexuals the right to a civil union.
a civil union is exactly the same thing as marriage, but it is not preformed in a church by a pastor but in a government building by a government official."
This one I'm not even going to defend as your right and I just never looked into it. Thank you for informing me.
but still on the giving people breaks thing, I wanted to punch you when I read that. sorry.
thanks for actually putting up an argument...an intelligent one...
hey its all right. ands i'm sorry for hardcore venting on you. i think that maybe you and me need to hang out and talk sometime soon aka go for coffee and just chat... you know how with both hate this internet bullshit.
and yeah, i don't know you very well and i do wanna get to know you so... yeah.
i only give breaks to people who deserve them aka not somebody who knows better but somebody who hasn't been taught to know better.
the whole point of marriage is to produce children
under safe and happy circumstances.
aka the dad can not get bored and just up and leave without a fight
legal et al.
alberta is the first province under ralf klien
that gave homosexuals the right to a civil union.
a civil union is exactly the same thing as marriage,
but it is not preformed in a church by a pastor
but in a government building by a government official.
i know heteros that have a civil union because they
are totally against religion.
you say that you don't believe in god or religion,
so why do you care about being allowed to marry your future wife in a church in god's name?
fuck you could have done the same thing without all the god and jeezuz bullshit years ago.
think about the connotation of the word "marriage"
and all that goes along with it before you get your panties in a twist.
yes, your grandfather was probably out of line
for gay bashing,
however, think of the era he grew up in
aka when when blacks were segregated
and women couldn't vote
and divorce was legal but TABOO as fuck
and the man was the head of the household.
i mean, homosexuality was still considered a mental disease until the 80's.
its time to start giving people a bit of a break.
i think?
its one of those things you realize when you meet more people...
i have a coworker
who is from pakistan
and she is 25 and speaks perfect english.
she is a lawyer back home,
and is just raising money to go to school
so she can upgrade etc.
the point of me telling you that is that
she is really against "same sex marriages"
to the point where when we all joke about "marrying each other"
she freaks out.
its because her religion
(and she is very religious)
dictates that it is wrong.
she doesn't know any better,
and she comes from a place where a man is the most important and powerful being
and women aren't even allowed to show any part of their bodies
except for their eyes.
do i freak out on her?
no.
we're really good friends.
she doesn't know that i am one of those "same sex" people
and i don't want her to.
also i don't want to force my beliefs and opinions on her
because she doesn't do that to me.
...am i making sense or am i rambling?
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You really have no idea the kind of person I am or the kind of person my Grandfather is. I DO not freak out at anyone! I do give people breaks and I do realize this stuff. I blew up at my Grandfather for a few other reason's, nothing to do with homosexuality. I HAVE never listened to someone without taking their believes into account etc etc...or whatever else...I said temper is bad, showing my remorse for getting angry. The end.
sorry but I'm slightly offended by what you said there...What the hell do you think of me if your informing me that people have believes and that I should take them into account. I FUCKING DO! If you've read any previous ramblings, as that's all these things are anyway, you may have gotten that...or not, I am quite vague...
I do not force my beliefs on anyone as well, if someone wants to argue my view then I will but I don't jump on people for their beliefs.
I don't fucking care about gay marriage, I think pushing it on either end is just stupid. I know that tid bit about homosexuality being claimed a mental disease.
I could argue that marriage belongs to the church but since my information is coming from somebody else's mouth it's just going to sound stupid...and well, according to what she say's though...she is taking a course in Universityon it, I beleive but I don't know, I'm not in the course. The connotation of marriage could have been changed...NOW it is man and woman but...I'll shut up now because I really don't know what I'm arguing. I'll get the info from her,sometime and post it.
I laugh at that Hitler thing. I should have said, I think he was a psychopath but I THINK he may have been as from the research I'm doing.Crtain things are noted about psycho's such as they seem to seek power...well, one type of psychopath anyway...I guess you could argue that he liked art and well, art = emotions but he kinda failed at his "art" so you never know...But do you know if Hitler showed any remorse for the dead jew's? Yes, what you said is true but I'm looking at this from a different perspective.
"alberta is the first province under ralf klien
that gave homosexuals the right to a civil union.
a civil union is exactly the same thing as marriage,
but it is not preformed in a church by a pastor
but in a government building by a government official."
This one I'm not even going to defend as your right and I just never looked into it. Thank you for informing me.
but still on the giving people breaks thing, I wanted to punch you when I read that.
sorry.
thanks for actually putting up an argument...an intelligent one...
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There just heat of the moment, I'm bored things.
I feel stupid now.
oh well.
it won't be the last entrie like this
and it isn't like no one else does this.
it's hard to tell what I'm feeling or thinking due to a bunch of badly typed words.
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ands i'm sorry for hardcore venting on you.
i think that maybe you and me need to hang out and talk sometime soon
aka go for coffee and just chat...
you know how with both hate this internet bullshit.
and yeah, i don't know you very well
and i do wanna get to know you
so... yeah.
i only give breaks to people who deserve them
aka not somebody who knows better
but somebody who hasn't been taught to know better.
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