This Game is Shockingly Not Aster, Not Aster At All. (Chapter Five)
Title: This Game is Shockingly Not Aster, Not Aster At All.
Author: Moi, Curlyqqueen.
Rating: PG-13 to Mature for violence and swearing.
Pairings/Characters: All of Young Justice, some of Justice League. Joker. Robin-centric. Robin/Kid Flash friendship (pre-slash if you really, really want to see it).
Warnings: Violence, Gore, Swearing, Dark Themes, ( Read more... )
I will! Yeah, lol, I'm in the same boat. I'll go on a friggin' hunt trying to find some good YJ fics.
Yeah, it can be really annoying going through the Meme but they also have a Delicious account that records fics. Ironically, it doesn't have my favorites on there. My favorite that are still updating and I'm reading revolve around KF and Robin though 'cause they're my favorites.
- One which is one page 4 of the third part of the prompts is a thing where Dr. Zoom comes in, dressed and talking like Barry, and likes continues to molest and or rape Wally. And, yeah, it's really sad and horrible but I can't stop reading it xD
-Then the other is onnnnn page 24 of part three, I think? And it's basically when Slade made Robin do his bidding in Teen Titans but with Young Justice instead- and it's a bit more dark.
Then there's the two I've put on there (harmless self plugging? maybe xD). One, to which I've finished, is a "five things" fics that involve how hugs between Robin and Wally have changed over the years. This fic is completely bro related with no gay-ness at all just because I knew that's what people would expect and, come on, bros can hug. The sections get sadder as they continue, too. That's on, uhhh, page 34 of part three.
And my other that I'm writing now is where, somehow, Jason Todd and Dick Grayson not only switch bodies but universes. Jason wakes up in a thirteen year old's body in Mount Justice and Dick wakes up in an adult body in some shit hole of an apartment. I have like one, two, and three up. That one is on page 2 of the newest section: part 4. ( oh yeah, this does, however, have some Dick/Wally but it's more one-sided until the end~)
Okay, now that that is done... xD
Yeah, casual fics are great and the crack makes me laugh but it's something about dark fics, ya' know? Maybe it appeals to my cynical dark side, I dunno.
I've done alot of research on the Joker just because I do love him so much but I can't read the comics 'cause I can't find them. I knew that, originally, DC created him to be this stupid weird character but the fans latched on to him and eventually the writers decided to delve deeper into his character and his connection to Batman.
And, yeah, I totally noticed that! To me, it just makes so much sense that Mr. J probably already knows he just doesn't care until it's convienent for him to know.
My Rob/KF ranges because I'm not a huge couple fan for anyone in YJ yet, not really. I'm just going with the flow. And, being a gay couple fangirl (Sherlock/John, etc) I look for reasons but Rob and KF don't really have any in the show. They're just bros in my opinion but it's still fun to twist it around once in a while. (Also, Dick is thirteen in Yj so I'm like... meeeeh.)
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Aw, don't worry you weren't looking to far into it! I love it when people get their own ideas for my writing and what you said makes alot of sense so maybe... ya' know? To me, Red Arrow is a very ah... interesting character. Not just in YJ but in the comics to. He gets addicted to drugs and he's like the complete opposite of what people think a hero should be like and act like. Think Jason but without the killing- add in drug use instead, lol!
Okay, my other reasoning for having RA going to "kill" the Joker just to have Dick stop him is because alot of fans of YJ have seen Red Hood and I wanted to subconsciously show the difference between Dick and Jason. Alot of people say that Dick doesn't kill because he's Bruce's lap dog and does whatever he wants (not true!) but it's really because of his own beliefs, how his parents raised him, and that line that he just can't cross. So, I wanted to show that Dick is the type that even after being tortured he wouldn't want someone to kill the bad guy in his name because murder is murder whether it's to avenge or not. Does that make sense?
I already knew what happened before I watched the movie since my friend looked it all up on youtube xD but yeah it was so brilliant and amazing and Red Hood is probably one of my favorite characters ever, and Jason is my second fav Robin after Dick just because of things like that. And, he shares my ideals 'cause I've always wondered why we just don't kill them. xD Then the ending flashback? I cried, man, I'll admit. Just to see how he slowly changed from a carefree youth to what he is now was heartbreaking on it's own. And Bruce's obviously torn heart. Oh god, and Alfred's reaction? Christ. Amazing movie in all.
Yeah, the sequel kind of delves into that and brings up questions like "Does Joker know?" like fifty times because the clown always plays allouf but then makes little comments that confuse you. xD
(omg it's so long I hit the limit, jesus christ. xD)
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Haha, that's cute, your giddiness and love and whatnot. As for your friend, force feed him your fic. Support--support, I say!
Okay, since you went through the trouble of providing me recs and pages, I braved myself once more into the YJ Anon Meme and, yeah, I was intimidated by the amount of comments! I'm the type that hates going into a middle of something unless I'm desperate or intrigued enough to try. Although that isn't exactly the case with the meme, since there are many, many breaks, I couldn't help but be weary! Still, I dived in and read the prompt about the super massive head-f*ck. Oh gods, that is a very messed up prompt! So the conclusion on that one, I couldn't bring myself to read it! Father figures, at that age, being sexually active with their "kid"... ugh. Even though it isn't actually Barry. I remember reading a fic of Batman Beyond with old Bruce Wayne molesting Terry with the batsuit through manual controls at the cave. I could not stop reading it despite my severe "UGH!" Let me tell you, that was one messed up fic! So I know what you mean when you can't stop reading a fic that you might not necessarily like because it's wrong, or badly-written, only because you're morbidly curious or just slightly interested in a certain component. Like sometimes I can read a horribly written story because it was that one something I just couldn't help but pay attention to! But it's always without fail that I end up hating the fic and find my time wasted. I try to stay away from fics that are just too hard to read past the errors. There's way too many of them on ff.net. And it seems like I trailed elsewhere, oops!
As for the second rec, read it on ff.net. It's very interesting to see a this YJ style, since there actually is a Batman involved and this Robin is so very different from TT Robin. I really like YJ better, and having Batman around, yum. I felt to bad for Robin when he shot Bruce. That was heart-breaking. :(
So I weeeeent to page 34 and read your fic and I smiled so hard. Aaaah, Robby and Daddy loooooove! Haha. That another thing I like about YJ, the implied closeness Dick and Bruce have unlike anywhere else I've seen besides in fan fics and fan art!!! So back to your story at hand. Rob's first hug from Wally. Cuute, and his initial dislike of him made me laugh! I can see Bruce in my mind giving Dick a knowing look, a hidden smirk on his face. Cause hey, it's amusing to see a kid judge someone at first with obvious dislike and then getting to meet that person and having a change of heart! I really do like this affectionate Wally. And I think Rob's affectionate too provided he felt he could express that feeling more openly, which Wally manages to bring out of him. I love guy friends that aren't afraid of hugging! Anniversary was so touching, I wanted more of it--I even wanted to read about their circus time haha! And LIGHTENING BOLT! Haha, gods, this fic is just too awesome! You totally highlighted my day with this fic. So, Nightwing huh. Did he leave the group? You almost make it sound like Wally hadn't seen him in a while. Just a little unclear. But jsjfls;; loved it. The emotion! /Melts/ So so, you're following the actual DC timeline. If you didn't tell me you didn't read the comics, I would have been fooled into thinking otherwise! You must really do your research. I've only read a few, ones of interest, but I'm not too big on the art and they aren't the easiest to find. Even now I'm not too up to date on what's going on. I need to go to wiki for answers lol! I'm s very curious now about Dick's Batman time and Damian as the new Robin. I hear he has an attitude and a messed up past. Haha, gods, I think Tim was the most normal of them all! But I really enjoyed all the fic. Post that one on ff.net too, or hear, so I can at least have easier access to it sometime in the future! :D
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Back to canon YJ, I don't like the pairings. So far we have high potential Megan/Superboy, one-sided Wally/Megan, and implied Wally/Artemis. Huh. I'm not too fond of any of these. And yeah, sometimes it's easy to forget Dick is only thirteen here, but forgettable all the same. Despite his silly immature nature, he still pulls off the mature outlook, particularly because of his crime-fighting career. In my eyes, that adds mental years to his actual age. And since he won't have a romantic interest in the series, well, gotta play around with that. Besides, two year age gap is hardly an issue... even though Robbie looks so tiny haha! Nooooes. And a friend of mine is slowly pulling me into Dick/Artemis. And I'm like, "hell, whynot." Every pairing imaginable gets made anyway, crack or not. Lol. As for Wally and Rob, I dig both the bro love and other kinda love that probably has the creator cringing in his sleep! :)
I read about Red Arrow's history a little. It's interesting to get an outlook of a more realistic hero. Kinda reminds me of Tony Stark and Watchmen cause in DC almost all the heros are like gods with so little human errors. I dunno, but it's great to see those imperfect ones too, plus their "I still got game" attitude as they go through trial and error and back into hero mode along with learning changing and growing.
Love your reasoning for using RA to demonstrate Dick's personal beliefs. He was a true heir to the mantle of Batman. I so wanna know the kinda Batman he is 'cause I really don't have much of idea of how Dick portrays that! And yes, it makes perfect sense. :)
I guess that's our evil inner human speaking. If I lived in that kind of world, and I was a hero, or just someone with the ability to make a difference in the crime community, I think I would be tempted to cross that line and even break through it. It would be so easy after witnessing the ugliness of humanity, would even make sense to get rid of the problem. Because how many times do these villains come back and make even more of a mess? Lots of time. I think the life of one outweighs the lives of more would apply to this. Going through what Jason went through, or just plain opening my eyes, would probably set me off and be like "why the hell not. Less suger-coating and giving them what they deserve" sounds good. Hahah, but who really knows. I could possibly be a wimp and be righteous with mixed resentment and be "I follow Batman and the rest of the superhero community: absolutely no killing these dirtbags no matter how much I want to!" But anyway, Jason, I loves him. He's such an interesting character. I would love more insight into his inner mind and his philosophies.
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Minus the molestation it's an amazing fic, really, and Robin and KF's bro scene is so sweet I almost died. HE NAMED HIS TURTLE VELOCITY. I still love that.
"Your turtle's diet is mushrooms, yogurt, and strawberries? That's one whelming diet, dude." XDD
But yeah when it comes to rape/molestation it's hard for me to read. I haven't even written that before just because- ugh, it's just so hard, ya' know? Reading it is bad enough. I've had parts in my stories where rape almost happened but then like someone would save them or something. That's just something I don't think I could write. What a challenge that would be.
Bats and Terry? Gaaaaah, bleh! That's creepy. I'm not a fan of any mentor/student couples really. RA/GA, kinda, but I think the only reason I can stand that is 'cause Roy is 18. Some people go for Bruce/Dick and I... too me that's just creepy. For them it's fine, ya' know, do your own thing, I'm cool, but not my thing as all. (that's his Bat!Daddy man! D:). I think I could just read the story with Wally because it wasn't actually Barry so it didn't horrify me as much, ya' know?
Gah, when he shot Bruce? I was like "noooooo T_T you poor baby" I even thought about if I was in his place and it was my father there. I dunno what decision I could make. God, that's such a horrible decision man.
Dude I love close Bruce and Dick, it's like my favorite. I've heard that Comic!Bruce treats all the Robins like shit so it's one reason I perfer the shows/movies over the comics. I really don't wanna read a mean Bruce :< Like, at all. But, yeah, The daddy/son relationship with that is so amazing, I try to inculde it my stories as much as possible~
Some of my fav fics are Wally and Dick's first meeting, so I had to incorporate it too! The Flashes are just so touchy-feely and the Bat family isn't (outdoors >>) and so the idea of Wally being like "OMG BRO HUG" and Rob being like "Uh... Ok?" is soooooo cute <3
Originally, Anniversary was going to be something entirely different (name and all). I was going to do a thing where Dick almost died or something and it was a "Thank-god-you're-alive-omg-i-almost-lost-my-bro" type hug but decided I needed something where Dick's past comes out instead. :33
Well, in comicverse (Dick isn't even ever in Young Justice) he becomes leader of Teen Titians, obviously, and after that he and Batman have a falling out in which Dick leaves to another city, Blood Haven, and takes the name Nightwing. He doesn't keep contact with anyone really, except for Wally who REFUSES to give up on their friendship. (there's a really cute comic where he comes over and forces Dick to have fun with him even though the guy just wants to brood). So, it wasn't that Wally never sees him it was more of that Dick never came to see him anymore, just KF seeing him. Annnnnd, they were around the Justice League who Nightwing chose to avoid alot of times. I wanted to show that Dick will always be there for his bestie, no matter what the circumstances. :)
Btw, Dick is Wally's best man at his wedding in the comics! 8D <3
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Yeah, Bruce "dies" and Tim refuses to believe it and goes looking for him while Dick comes back to take up the mantel meanwhile. Damien was, uh, bred in a test tub and his father was a dick who taught him to be a tiny assasian killer, which is why he's like the first Robin to carry a sword and why he has such an attitude problem. The only people he likes is Dick (He he calls Grayson <3 <3 <3)and Bruce everybody else can go jump off a cliff for all he cares.
Yeah, Tim is the most normal Robin xD And, ironically, my least favorite. Lol.
I'm soooooo happy you enjoyed it! I was nervous recommending it, lol. But I'm always like that with EVERYTHING, so yeah.
THANK YOU <3 I'm glad you like that one too, lol. Most def, dude, I think both of them will freak out. And then Bruce'll freak out when he realizes Jason is in the past, in Dick's body, where he can do LOADS of damage to the future. I shouuuuld be updating today actually... like right after I finish replying to this! :D
Dick/Artemis? Interesting.... They're already a "bro" couple in my mind. Since Robin was like the only one that wasn't bitching about her joining and she's gonna go to Gotham Academy so YOU JUST KNOW Dick is gonna try to be friends with her, man. I'm actually kinda fond of Artemis/Roy, idk why 'cause there's like NO FILLS for these two but I like them. xD
AH YOU COMPARED HIM TO TONY STARK. Ilu, man, i really do. Iron Man is like my fav Marvel hero. But, yeah, I get what you mean. That was one of my biggest problems with DC was that the heroes (*cough*Superman*cough*) was so damn perfect it made me sick. So when I come across imperect heroes in DC it's so refreshing. <3 And when I found out Roy had a drug problem but was still a badass I was like "HELL YEAH MANNN!"
He really is. And yeah, I know Dick is Batman for a bit but I have no idea what he's like as him yet. I wanna read that comic really bad, now.
I would probably either a) kill the bad guys, b) want to but be too much of a friggin' wuss, or c) have that urge (like Bruce describes in Red Hood) but not because I wouldn't be able to stop. Either way Jason has the right idea it's just "wrong" in alot of aspects 'cause murder is murder so it's looked down on. But, to me, how is war any different ya' know? And Bruce and the Robins don't have powers so it's not really being "unfair" like if it was Superman or whatever. Either way I think i'd want Jason to be my mentor if I was in the universe. God, that's horrible. xD
Don't sweat it! I understood everything perfectly, really. I love length because it gives me more to reply to (obviously)and so usually the longer the comment the longer I CANT HELP but make my reply. Idk why really. xD
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Okay, so why am I not surprised to hear about a KF-owned turtle by the name of Velocity? Haha, cause it screams Wally! I love that KF’s a science wiz, and he showed that so much in “Denial.” That amused me because Wally is smart without a doubt, but his goofy nature does a lot to shadow that. He should be more of a nerd just for the fun of it. Then again, maybe he has enough of that at school. Did you see his totally sucky day at school? Of course you did. His classmates beat him up with dodge balls! Guess he ain’t the most popular of people, poor guy. XD Oh, and that diet---pure amazingness and whelming stuff. Not to mention random… yogurt, pft! CAN A TURTLE LIVE OFF OF THAT?
I know what you mean. I read a rape-related short story for my Creative Writing class and it just made feel mentally down, almost empty. Hard stuff to read, so I try to stay away from it. I don’t think I’d ever be able to write it. If I did, I would have to be in a real black mood, and that just won’t do. A challenge indeed. Molestation, on the other hand, is a little more tolerable, especially if there’s a message, learning experience, and justice to it. It doesn’t make it any less terrible, and I admit it can’t be anything hardcore or too detailed for me. Something soft with somebody saving that person, that I find manageable.
I guess I was morbidly curious about how the author would pull off Bruce/Terry. It was a mistake to read it, as it was just plain disturbing. It was the last and only fic of that nature that I read lol. And I’ve seen the interest people have in Bruce/Dick! I would never read a story about that pairing! It just isn’t right! He’s his Bat!Daddy (haha, cute name!)
From what I read, he does treat Dick badly in the comics. Seems like he doesn’t even love him. So I probably won’t be reading any of those comics. I very much prefer an understanding good father figure for Dick. And that’s so very well expressed in “Young Justice.” And it’s almost becoming a popular thing today, overprotective and kind Bruce with his kiddo by most modern fans. I’m glad that they went along with Earth-16. There is more room for experimentation and manipulation of the characters and their past, present, and future histories.
Are the Flashes touchy-feely? I guess I haven’t paid much attention to that canon-wise! And even if they weren’t, they make better characters being affectionate. Their city and natures call for it! :D
Like I said earlier, there’s a lot of new liberal twists the creators used with “YJ.” Most fans were upset with the decision of using Dick and Wally versus Tim and Bart. I wasn’t. I prefer the first two to the latter. Although some fans might have merit in their arguments that Dick’s Robin suit has too many similarities to what Tim would wear as Robin, and that Dick’s personality and crime-fighting traits in YJ meshes more with Tim’s, like hacking ability and detective analyzing crap. Truths, half-truths, or falsities, whatever; in my eyes, it’s all irrelevant. Besides, I think the whole bat family has hacking and detective stuff down, and it isn’t like YJ is comparing whose better or not. To me it doesn’t matter because this is a different world, almost, and it’s so present day to ours. There would be no way in hell Dick would wear that sorry excuse for superhero underwear, be bare-legged, and use pixie boots in this day and time. Bruce would be “I do NOT approve,” “You are NOT going out in public in THAT, I REFUSE,” and “You PEDO-BEAR, FIEND, CRADLE-SNATCHER, stop ogling my son!” And besides, all their personalities have been screwed with in every series adaption anyway, why not add more to it and have everyone deal with it. That, and I totally love this version of Robin. A better improvement to TT Robin, particularly the TT Go! version.
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I like the relationship that Dick-Batman and Damian-Robin have. At least, from what I gather, it’s a lot closer than Dick ever had with Bruce in the comics. Dick is probably a softer Batman, more open. I think I saw somewhere that Gotham’s law enforcement preferred dealing with Dick than with Bruce haha. Oh, and apparently Grayson is a good influence on Damian. I wonder if they’ll come up with an animation of those two someday. That would be interesting. But Tim was right, Bruce was alive traveling through dimensions and crap, came back, shares the mantle with Dick, and is promoting Batman Inc. WTH right?
Anyway, read more of your fic with Jaaaason. It was cool! You keep me craving for more! I wanna see more of each! But definitely interesting to see Jason’s reaction. But my first tip-off as Jason would have been the voice. So it seems like you’re right, Dick is going to get the burn of this switch, since it is his life a mostly bad guy is gonna mess with, plus the future. So question, does this take place in the same universe? Like their times are actually connected? At first, I thought they were both from different dimensions?
I don’t have the bro/sis vibe from them yet cause they haven’t had much interaction in the series yet, but I’m sure that’s all they’ll be. I was happy that she was accepted to Gotham Academy. It’s like yeeees, there’s definitely gonna be some interaction between them in their civvies. Personally though, I just wanna see more Dick Grayson with those lovely blue eyes of his! It’s amazing what a mask can do to hide his identity.
Heck yeah! Tony Stark is awesome. Love Iron Man out of alllll the Marvel characters. I like Spiderman too… just not so much his personality, at least not the one I’m most familiar with in the films.
Jason as your mentor, man, you’d diiiiiie. Haha, he’d probably push you off the highest building of Gotham and be like, “I can do it. Oh, and try not to die.” :P
But yeah, cutting it shoooort at the end cause I wanted to reply to you since yesterday but my work and school schedule is trying to suffocate me. I am now off to my CW class. Yay/boo. It’s really a mixture of both cause I have an awesome professor but uuuugh, I still haven’t finished a reader’s response to somebody’s short story. It sucked. What am I supposed to say when I can only say good stuff? That’s terrible, I know, but if you read it, you’d agree with me!!!
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