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Dravila79: forgiveness is something i believe in, because i think basically us as humans really don't measure up to much ... but i think there is a higher level of being and existence, that doesn't struggle as much as us with doing things that cause ourselves and others harm... and redemption is the ability to know that despite our repeated and constant fuck ups we're still able to be like that higher level of being littls bits at a time, and in that level of being we're able to spread out forgiveness...