The Dee-Annotated Supernatural - Something Wicked

May 31, 2006 10:08

Didn't get to watch this on Monday. The Male was being shiatsued (and apparently breasts are a kidney disorder, who knew?) and then we went for food, so we taped it and watched it on Tuesday. I slapped together the snark as best I could because ohgod, no TIME, too much WORK ( Read more... )

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ladyjaida May 31 2006, 00:16:06 UTC
but the main thing I get out of the scene is this overwhelming urge to SMACK Sammy. He hasn't changed. He is thoughtlessly selfish, and thoughtlessly generous. Entirely self-absorbed.

That's ... exactly it, oh my god. This is the problem I have with Sam all the time, but it's said just freakin' right.

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cupiscent May 31 2006, 01:00:34 UTC
Heh. Happy to help, ma'am. *G*

Seriously, though. Sam is selfish. Not in a he-wants-everything way. Not even in a pay-attention-to-me way. Just in a way where he articulates and acts upon every thought he has without actually pausing to consider how this will impact upon other people. I'm sure that he couldn't have got to 23 and living in the world without coming across the concept of compromise and sublimating oneself to some other cause, I just don't know that it's ever occured to him to do it for anything other than "normal".

But hey, it's part of what makes him so interesting. *G*

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ladyjaida May 31 2006, 01:04:29 UTC
I've come to terms with Sam being selfish, really, but for a long time it made me so damn mad! He's a younger sibling, and because of the particular situations he's grown up in and the peculiarities of Dean and his relationship, and all the weird emotional crap Papa Winchester has put both of them through, Sam's come out thinking that when he farts he destroys the freakin' ozone layer. And then there's the subtler selfishness, how he says in Something Wicked, for example, "I wish I could have that kind of innocence." Not "you" or even the compromising "us" -- "I."

What makes it so interesting is that Dean encourages it because that's their nature -- he doesn't say "I wish I could, too" but "I wish you could, too" and Sam never has to think to question his initial statement.

Fwar.

Hope you don't mind that I've friended you, by the way -- I am lovin' these posts too much not to catch them.

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cupiscent May 31 2006, 01:13:31 UTC
sevenfists just pointed that out below, about the "I", not "we". I hadn't even noticed it, but yeah, totally, though I do think it's a more convoluted display of the dynamics of the family than merely a selfish-Sam incident.

As if I'd mind being friended. *G* More friends are MARVELLOUS.

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ladyjaida May 31 2006, 01:22:16 UTC
I am obsessed with that I-not-we thing. It says everything about Sam and it's another example of how subtle these writers CAN be. Sometimes. A lot of the time. Not all the time, though. You're really right about Sharing And Caring Dean: he just doesn't do that. There are some out of character moments that really bug me, and the Talking About It Dean in SW is one of those cases.

I never know! I always love more friends, but not everyone has the friending policy I do. Also I am paranoid. \o/

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